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Bottom line, never talk to law enforcement without a lawyer present.
1 posted on 06/23/2022 11:16:09 AM PDT by Macho MAGA Man
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To: Macho MAGA Man

Exactly!


2 posted on 06/23/2022 11:18:03 AM PDT by Harpotoo (Being a socialist is a lot easier than having to WORK like the rest of US:-))
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To: Macho MAGA Man

Exactly.


3 posted on 06/23/2022 11:18:56 AM PDT by tiki (Electiongate)
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From what I’ve read from other sources, the case doesn’t change anything about what is admissible in court. It only ruled that you can’t sue for a civil rights violation if they fail to read you your Miranda rights.


4 posted on 06/23/2022 11:19:04 AM PDT by Boogieman
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I don’t understand how this is a “threat” to the 5th Amendment. This person was not compelled to talk to or give a statement. One has the inherent right to not speak to law enforcement.


5 posted on 06/23/2022 11:21:29 AM PDT by rigelkentaurus
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To: Macho MAGA Man

🎯👍


6 posted on 06/23/2022 11:21:41 AM PDT by oldvirginian (The CCP is the world's largest criminal organization. The FBI is the second largest.)
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If you wanta talk and do....so be it...

There's a difference when you are arresting someone.

10 posted on 06/23/2022 11:23:24 AM PDT by Sacajaweau ( )
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You are absolutely right. No debate at all.

Watch vids of defiant, right asserting drivers. Often gets gnarly. Can you do that? Can many others?

12 posted on 06/23/2022 11:24:21 AM PDT by Born in 1950 (Anti left, nothing else.)
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Please let me know what the law is. I thought Miranda rights were given only after a person is arrested.


13 posted on 06/23/2022 11:25:00 AM PDT by o-n-money (Not my president: WRONG Not the president: RIGHT)
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More fake news from the lying Democrat news media. This case affirms that Miranda, as modified by some later decisions, remains good law. All this case holds is that Miranda violations do not create a cause of action for damages. What Miranda means is that if a suspect gives a statement without having been Mirandized, that statement cannot be used against him - the original Miranda holding.

This decision does not "gut" Miranda.

14 posted on 06/23/2022 11:25:36 AM PDT by colorado tanker
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I spent a lot of time teaching this to my children. If any law enforcement officer or government official asks you a question, direct them to your mother or to me. Do not answer the question unless it is a matter of life or death, i.e. which room is the baby in during a fire.


15 posted on 06/23/2022 11:25:47 AM PDT by wbarmy (Trying to do better.)
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Most hospital employees don’t admit they sexually assaulted women in a hospital. They will be judged in a court that does not recognize Miranda, as will their supporters.


16 posted on 06/23/2022 11:26:38 AM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began)
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I dunno. By now, if every single person in America isn't aware of the Miranda warning, and their rights, then maybe they are too stupid to be freely wandering our streets.

I mean, it's not like it's a secret.

18 posted on 06/23/2022 11:27:18 AM PDT by Lazamataz (The firearms I own today, are the firearms I will die with. How I die will be up to them.)
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Agreed and that means never, not even when they are not investiagting anything.


20 posted on 06/23/2022 11:30:16 AM PDT by joma89 (Buy weapons and ammo, folks, and have the will to use them.)
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Quite correct.
However this was a ruling about a Civil case, not a criminal case. Civil cases usually only involve money, Criminal cases you can lose rights, freedoms, and money (if they can it out of you while you rot in jail.)
Never talk to a cop, without a lawyer present.


21 posted on 06/23/2022 11:31:37 AM PDT by rellic
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More Grifter Pundit trash.

The only thing the court decided today, is that the court made up rule in Miranda (which has as much basis in the Constitution as the made up rule in Roe) is not the basis for a 1983 action.

Nothing more.

NOTHING.

If you are in custody and interrogated without Miranda warnings, the statements won’t come into court.

Miranda rights were not gutted, and Queer Hoft is a liar.


22 posted on 06/23/2022 11:32:19 AM PDT by TexasGurl24
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Please, what clap trap sensationalized headline...

All the court ruled was if you aren’t advised of your miranda rights and the cops take your statement and us it later, you can’t sue the cops.

They didn’t gut anything here... If you weren’t told your rights and they take your statement and try to use it in court that’s a mistrial, the statement is inadmissible.

All the court ruled here is you can’t sue the cop... Nothing gutted here.


23 posted on 06/23/2022 11:33:00 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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...shall be compelled...

He could have just said, "Talk to my lawyer....................

27 posted on 06/23/2022 11:43:13 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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Well, and the synopsis is incorrect. This does nothing to undermine Miranda or gut the 5th.

The fact remains that unless you are given your Miranda rights, nothing you say can be used against you in court. Its evidence that is disallowed, even if you confess to murder. Certainly a technicality, but it is the way it is.

The prosecutor should have known that and refused to move forward with the case. This isn’t about whether he was guilty or innocent of the crime. Its about whether he can sue over being tried after winning his trial. You can’t.

But if your defense is successful, who pays for it? Its certainly not cheap to put up a criminal defense and most people don’t have a couple hundred thousand laying around to do it. Are you just screwed?


28 posted on 06/23/2022 11:44:24 AM PDT by NicoDon
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The Supreme Court informs me to invoke the 5th and remain silent.

From 2013...

<> Supreme Court Rules Fifth Amendment Has to Actually Be Invoked <>

In a 5-4 decision the Supreme Court ruled [in 2013] that a potential defendant’s silence can be used against him if he is being interviewed by police but is not arrested (and read his Miranda rights) and has not verbally invoked the protection of the Fifth Amendment.

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3038224/posts


31 posted on 06/23/2022 11:51:22 AM PDT by deks
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Not what the ruling said. The case was already tossed in the state courts once the Miranda violation voided the evidence. This is solely whether the officer could still be sued for the Miranda violation.


34 posted on 06/23/2022 12:08:20 PM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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