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California court rules that bees are a type of fish in order to protect them under the state's endangered species act
Insider ^ | Jun 1, 2022 | Mia Jankowicz

Posted on 06/01/2022 1:20:30 PM PDT by where's_the_Outrage?

Judges ruled on Tuesday that bumble bees can be classed as fish under California environmental laws.

This unlocks protections for the state's four endangered bumble bee species.

The ruling clarifies the state's confusing classification in its environmental protections.

A trio of judges in California said on Tuesday that bees can be legally classed as a type of fish as part of a ruling that brings added conservation protections for the endangered species.

"The issue presented here is whether the bumble bee, a terrestrial invertebrate, falls within the definition of fish," the judges wrote in their ruling. And, they concluded, it does.

Formerly, the problem for bee-lovers — and lovers of all Californian terrestrial invertebrates — was down to the way protected animals have been classified in the state's laws.

Although four different bee species were classified as endangered in 2018, land invertebrates are not explicitly protected under the state's Endangered Species Act (CESA), which protects endangered "native species or subspecies of a bird, mammal, fish, amphibian, reptile, or plant."....

They also argued that land-based invertebrates have been protected under the category of "fish" under the statute in the past, such as in 1980 when the Trinity bristle snail was protected.

The judges described how California's legislature has wavered for years over whether or not to explicitly include invertebrates in the Act, presumably saving them the trouble of having to expand the definition of fish.

(Excerpt) Read more at msn.com ...


TOPICS: Government; Pets/Animals; Science; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: bees; california; environmentalwacko; fish; linguisticgymnastics; newspeak; swingingonastar; woulduratherbeafish
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To: AndyJackson

Hey if boys can be girls and girls can be boys THEN I guess a bee can be a fish why the hell not?? This country has gone to hell in a hand basket!!!


41 posted on 06/01/2022 1:41:06 PM PDT by Trump Girl Kit Cat (Yosemite Sam raising hell)
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To: Cboldt; Captain Jack Aubrey
"Deem it so, and rule accordingly."

Stroke of the pen - Law of the Land.

Legislated and adjudicated 'reality'.
Quite 'awesome' indeed.

42 posted on 06/01/2022 1:41:21 PM PDT by GaltAdonis
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

A spelling bee that anyone can win?


43 posted on 06/01/2022 1:45:11 PM PDT by Raycpa
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To: Cboldt

One would think they could add (or put it in the law in the first place) “or any other living organism” as a catch all. I wonder why they didn’t?

Maybe because that would include “conservatives”?

Reminds me of a speech that was written for FDR back during the New Deal. The writer included something like “These efforts will strengthen American businesses. But be well aware that the government has no ambitions of gaining control of industry.”

FDR replied to the speech writer “Leave out that last sentence.”


44 posted on 06/01/2022 1:48:00 PM PDT by 21twelve (Ever Vigilant. Never Fearful.)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

Up is down, bees are fish.


45 posted on 06/01/2022 1:48:22 PM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

Beavers are fish in Quebec and certain other places, but that’s for the sake of eating them. I suspect that this extends to all places that once fell under the domain of Quebec, which would be most, if not all, of Canada, and possibly everything west of the Alleghenies that was never Spanish.

That line of reasoning comes from a certain sort of moral theology (deservedly) associated with the Jesuits.

The California Court is Jesuitical. Accurate and demeaning.


46 posted on 06/01/2022 1:49:24 PM PDT by Hieronymus
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To: where's_the_Outrage?
As good a time as any, cue up Eric...

Eric The Half A Bee

47 posted on 06/01/2022 1:50:14 PM PDT by C210N (Everything will be okay in the end. If it’s not okay, it’s not the end.)
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To: ArcadeQuarters
Can a human fetus be declared a fish?

Why not? I was taught in Junior High Science Class that we all had "gill slits".
48 posted on 06/01/2022 1:50:14 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("It's one thing if it's a minor incursion" - Joe Biden)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

Reasonable judges, would have told the Legislature to fix the law as opposed to creating who new classifications of species.

But there is nothing reasonable of the legal system in California.


49 posted on 06/01/2022 1:51:41 PM PDT by Robert357
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To: packagingguy

Buzz, Buzz, I ‘be’ a fish.

See. I speak Californian.


50 posted on 06/01/2022 1:53:08 PM PDT by Scrambler Bob (My /s is more true than your /science (or you might mean /seance)gg g)
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To: All

Say what????

Well, I guess if men can get pregnant, then bees can be fish.


51 posted on 06/01/2022 1:55:32 PM PDT by LegendHasIt
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

I guess it doesn’t surprise me in an era where a soon to be Supreme Court Justice doesn’t know what a woman is.


52 posted on 06/01/2022 1:55:48 PM PDT by libertylover (Our BIGGEST problem, by far, is that most of the media is hate & agenda driven, not truth driven.)
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To: ArcadeQuarters
Can a human fetus be declared a fish?

Italian Trulli

Funny thing is…for decades they taught Foetuses ARE fish!? Perhaps your idea could save children?!
53 posted on 06/01/2022 1:57:28 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

Good way to get out of the death penalty.

There’s only one of me!


54 posted on 06/01/2022 1:57:35 PM PDT by fruser1
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

If I eat seafood I git hives. It all makes sense now.


55 posted on 06/01/2022 2:00:27 PM PDT by bunkerhill7 (That`s 464 people per square foot! Is this corrrect..it was NYC.)
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To: Jan_Sobieski
Funny thing is…for decades they taught Foetuses ARE fish!? Perhaps your idea could save children?!

That was called the Ontogenic Law. "Ontogeny Recapitulates Phylogeny". The development of the embryo reflects the evolutionary pathways.

It was cool to say at parties, but biologists didn't take it seriously very long.

56 posted on 06/01/2022 2:03:43 PM PDT by gitmo (If your theology doesn't become your biography, what good is i)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

Bizzaro world


57 posted on 06/01/2022 2:04:03 PM PDT by taxcontrol (The choice is clear - either live as a slave on your knees or die as a free citizen on your feet.)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

I swear they are screwing with us. Honey Bee’s could have their own legitimate bill. Why make them a fish? will my great grandchildren be taught bee’s are fish, Men are women, women are men, claiming settled science? Everyone in California should capture bees and return them to the sea until they change this stupidity. Of course use wasps and hornets, honey bees are good 🐝 They’re too stupid to tell the difference.


58 posted on 06/01/2022 2:07:44 PM PDT by M_Continuum
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To: where's_the_Outrage?
In grammar school we learned that the Church, who oversaw the law for Galileo, persecuted Galileo for espousing that the sun was the center of our solar system.

Now we have courts in California declaring bees are fish, something a kindergartner knows to be false.

59 posted on 06/01/2022 2:09:03 PM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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To: dfwgator
"Well there is Bumble Bee Tuna."

HA!!! Good point!

60 posted on 06/01/2022 2:09:39 PM PDT by LegendHasIt
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