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With electric cars, the nexus between leftist ideals and reality is shrinking
American Thinker.com ^ | May 21, 2022 | Terry Paulding

Posted on 05/21/2022 4:48:35 AM PDT by Kaslin

Last week I looked at our food supply and eating habits, where we have a clash between leftist, utopian ideals such as veganism versus the same group’s more reachable, yet still unrealistic, ideals about all-natural, organic agriculture. Basically, they’re pitting an animal-free diet versus animal poop fertilizer. This isn’t, by far, the only area where the left descends into absurdity. Leftists habitually deny the truth in just about every position they take, from economic, to medical, to environmental, to societal concerns. Of course, their position is always coupled with the accusation that we normal people are guilty of something dire; that is, destroying the planet, racism, sexism, etc. It’s all transference—whatever we’re accused of, it’s exactly what they are doing themselves.

This time, let’s look at the push toward eliminating fossil fuels and the gasoline car engine, in the name of lessening pollution and slowing global warming. You may think you’re helping the environment when you buy an all-electric vehicle but reality will head-butt you. I keep hearing Tom Hanks’s voice in my mind, saying his one great line: “Stupid is as stupid does.”

I’ve always questioned the all-electric car phenomenon, given the price and how unlikely they would be pleasant on a long trip. You’d spend way too much time waiting for the darn thing to charge every few hundred miles. Even if those “rapid” public charging stations that are supposedly about to spring up everywhere actually appear, there will be predictable problems. I suspect those problems will make the old Jimmy Carter gas lines look tame, with rapid being a relative term. Also, you need to install a charger at home and, unless you get a dozen solar panels to run it when the sun’s shining, you are paying ever-increasing electric rates to power your car.

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1 posted on 05/21/2022 4:48:35 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Yep, tire particulats. Not even include the environmental issues concerning the batteries, or the extra power expenditures due to moving added vehicle weight.


2 posted on 05/21/2022 5:02:18 AM PDT by D Rider ( )
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To: Kaslin

Just as the world progressed from horse power vehicles to gas powered vehicles, it would have naturally progressed to electric or hydrogen power vehicles. The problem now is politicians and greenfreaks want to accelerate that process at their commands to gain power over common folks.


3 posted on 05/21/2022 5:49:43 AM PDT by antidemoncrat ( adn)
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To: D Rider

Different car weights require different tire compound formulations. Don’t put ICEv tires on a BEV.

If the electric grid goes out you can’t power gasoline fuel pumps either.

On a modern electric car it takes ~20 minutes to charge from 5%-80% or 0-100% in less than an hour. Time needed for a bathroom break or a meal every 250-300 miles. For the vast majority of people short daily trips are 95%+ of miles driven. Chargers are getting more powerful and battery packs are able to take more power every couple of years.

Pollution from ICEv is 100x any battery mining/recycling pollution. And ICEv also require mining/recycling.

The electric grid is getting cleaner every day. ICE has just about reached its peak efficiency.

And the power outages in Texas were not caused by wind/solar. It was caused by natural gas plants not being weatherized against record breaking low temperatures. Gas plants in Minnesota would have handled that weather without a problem.

GM and Ford say fully electric is the future.


4 posted on 05/21/2022 5:52:25 AM PDT by Reaganez
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To: Reaganez

How’s that koolaid?


5 posted on 05/21/2022 5:57:04 AM PDT by ModernDayCato (Noah was a conspiracy theorist until it started raining. )
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To: Reaganez
The more weight you move, the more energy expended. The real environmental solution is to reduce the number of people that are actually moving by making the movement too expensive. Or alternatively, reduce the number of people, such that the total number of people miles moved remains under the sustainable ideal.

Let's all go global!/s

6 posted on 05/21/2022 6:03:06 AM PDT by D Rider ( )
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To: D Rider

BEVs are 90% efficient.

ICEv are 25% efficient. When you burn a gasoline of gas 75% is converted to heat. That heat does not move the car forward.

Even though the weight is greater you require less energy to move a BEV.


7 posted on 05/21/2022 6:07:11 AM PDT by Reaganez
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To: ModernDayCato

You tell me.


8 posted on 05/21/2022 6:07:29 AM PDT by Reaganez
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To: Kaslin

Biden has caused the price of lithium to soar seven-fold.

This has slowed the shift to lithium battery powered products.


9 posted on 05/21/2022 6:11:22 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: Kaslin

Electric vehicles are simply devices to keep people confined to small geographical areas.
A means of control of movement.


10 posted on 05/21/2022 6:11:43 AM PDT by TexasM1A
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To: Reaganez

“If the electric grid goes out you can’t power gasoline fuel pumps either.”

If the electric grid goes out and you’ve got or can lay hold of a small generator you CAN power those pumps. They don’t take a lot of power to run. If desperate you can use a manual pump to get fuel from the tanks when that fails.

Gas stations can take cash for gas they sell under those circumstances.

Your talking point is in error. Fundamentally so.

But nothing would stop Non-hybrid EVs from becoming expensive lawn art in a prolonged outage.

As for the power grid, look for the environmentalists to fight tooth and nail to keep it from expanding enough to handle the “future” of EVs for everyone.

Hybrids, when used as mixed power hybrids and not as EVs till the battery run down then gas, make sense. EVs much less so.


11 posted on 05/21/2022 6:13:07 AM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: Reaganez

“Time needed for a bathroom break or a meal every 250-300 miles.”

If you’re going to eat a meal every 250-300 miles, you’re going to need a truck to haul your fat ass around.


12 posted on 05/21/2022 6:23:24 AM PDT by carriage_hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: Reaganez

Your BS smells.


13 posted on 05/21/2022 6:25:10 AM PDT by cp124 (80% of everything is fake or a lie.)
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To: Brian Griffin

Just read going to be shortage of rubber, you know to make tires.


14 posted on 05/21/2022 6:31:07 AM PDT by Engedi
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To: D Rider

Or the THOUSANDS of mines that need to open worldwide to get the BILLIONS OF TONS of metals and minerals needed to make solar panels, windmills, EVs, and electrical distribution plant.

Or plan for the disposal of billions of tons of toxic waste starting ten years from now and growing exponentially.

Or the restoration of MILLIONS of windmill sites when the machines reach the ends of their lives in 20 to 30 years. We will have vast forests of windmill towers with one or two blades hanging on all over the nation standing mute to this extreme folly.

Not one liberal can even spell “system.”


15 posted on 05/21/2022 6:33:14 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (Wanting to make America great isn’t an insult unless you’re trying to make it worse! ULTRAMAGA!!)
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To: D Rider

Yes. The energy density of an electric battery is a small fraction of the energy density of a liquid hydrocarbon fuel, so batteries have to weigh much more than gasoline. You cannot fool F = MA. All that energy wasted getting that M in motion.


16 posted on 05/21/2022 6:36:54 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (Wanting to make America great isn’t an insult unless you’re trying to make it worse! ULTRAMAGA!!)
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To: Kaslin

You want poop powered Agriculture?
Personal hobby farm, cool.
Ask Sri Lanka how mass Organic is working out.

EVs? Want one, get one.

Let the un-crony, un-subsifized markets decide.

Not for everybody, but as for me?

I want a Tesla, but She That Rules says no effin way, not yet anyway.
Yep, I’m lucky.
I got a smart one.


17 posted on 05/21/2022 7:11:12 AM PDT by Macoozie (Handcuffs and Orange Jumpsuits)
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To: D Rider

“The more weight you move, the more energy expended. The real environmental solution is to reduce the number of people that are actually moving by making the movement too expensive.”

Correct, electric cars are just a ‘transition’ to more ‘sustainable’ forms of transportation, which will have to be electric scooters and bicycles, at least for the West.

Russia won’t have that problem because they’ll stick with hydrocarbons for transportation.


18 posted on 05/21/2022 7:22:16 AM PDT by BobL (Putin isn't sending gays into our schools to groom my children, but anti-Putin people are)
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To: Kaslin

“rapid” public charging stations.
“Light” rail.

Make up a name that sounds better then reality.


19 posted on 05/21/2022 7:27:24 AM PDT by minnesota_bound (Need more money to buy everything now)
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To: Rurudyne

“As for the power grid, look for the environmentalists to fight tooth and nail to keep it from expanding enough to handle the “future” of EVs for everyone.”

There’s DEFINITELY a form of ‘compartmentizing’ going on with people who claim to be on our side, as they simply gloss-over the fact that the power needed to run their Carbon-Neutral society and still maintain anything above 3rd World Living standards will NEVER be permitted.

It is a smart approach by them - get the electric transition started (with cars, home heating, etc.), then get the REGULATIONS in place to force the transition as people catch on (as we’re already seeing in some Leftist jurisdictions). All that can be done without minimal impact on the grid.

Then, as the grid collapses (again, since they’ll NEVER permit the kind of growth required - due to its cost, if nothing else), people will funnel themselves into a more ‘sustainable’ lifestyle - that being high-rise apartments. Mission Accomplished.


20 posted on 05/21/2022 7:28:45 AM PDT by BobL (Putin isn't sending gays into our schools to groom my children, but anti-Putin people are)
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