Posted on 05/15/2022 12:54:57 PM PDT by MercyFlush
Right now as I write this there are significant elements of the Ukrainian forces located within 40km of the strategic Soviet city of Belgorod.
This city is a critical transshipment and distribution hub for all manner of logistical support for the Soviet Army that is currently trying to steal more land from Ukraine.
The foolish Soviets have left this city all but undefended as they've moved their forces to concentrate on preventing the encirclement and capture of 20,000+ orc forces at Izyum, Ukraine.
The Ukrainians don't have to even seize the city. They may not even need to cross into enemy territory at all. But by at least threatening Belgorod and taking it under artillery fire the Ukrainians can force the Soviets to move precious forces to defend the city.
The return on investment for the Ukrainians for crossing into Russia to harass this city or maybe even capture it is great. They can readily retreat across the border after their objectives in Belgorod are achieved and they will get the added benefit of secondary objectives:
1. Vladimir Putin will be humiliated for leaving a critical Soviet city vulnerable to attack. 2. Supplies to Soviet combat forces in Ukraine will be disrupted. 3. Soviet forces will be degraded yet again as a permanent force will be required to garrison and protect Belgorod from future Ukrainian incursions. 4. That permanent garrison can then be targeted by long range artillery.
Putin could of course declare war and call for a general mobilization of Soviet forces. The problem for Putin is that doing so makes Ukraine look strong and the Orcs look weak in the eyes of the Soviet people who were told to expect a short and glorious war of conquest.
The added psychological effect of this stupid war leading to the first foreign forces on Soviet soil since World War Two will be huge...and it will be blamed on the failures of Pidor Putin.
Regardless of what Ukraine decides to do here Belgorod is critical and vulnerable and it is a legitimate target.
Libya has an endless stream of useless mercs to waste and Russians have a footprint on the country already.
Turkey has already verbally stated they are with Russia though they want the war to end.
Watch the battle lines fall into play.
Wow just wow.
Bullies irritate me. What can I say?
A logbase city, road, rail and air hub critical to ops/conops? Left unguarded?
That’s a mighty bold risk right there.
I did state I was speaking tactically, not necessarily operationally or strategically.
I’m a field grade boots in the mud type, not a GO.
“ Ukraine does not have enough military supplies nor men to attack Russia. Russia would bring overwhelming power to take the whole of Ukraine if they did that. Bill Clinton took away Ukraine nukes. Nato is running out of our supplies. Europe does not want gas, oil and electricity shut off. Russia destroyed the biolabs that the deep state had at the border.Russia holds most of the cards.”
A couple of months ago I would have agreed.
Now? Not so much.
Now? Not so much.
I expect less than half of what we hear is true.
You're a fool. If that happened, Russia would destroy Western Ukraine with "shock and awe" campaign even though they Russians have absolutely no interest in anything but liberating the ethnically Russian part of the country.
Russia owns the air and sea. They could destroy any city at any time. They have been running up to 300 sorties a day.
You're dumb because you believe the Biden regime propaganda. But we all know neocons aren't the sharpest tools in the shed.
[Russian nuclear threats have become tiresome. Do it or STFU already.]
If not done carefully, it could give Putin the excuse to go nuclear, or a general mobilization. On the other hand, carefully targeting specific military targets like railroad marshalling yards, military supplies, and key bridges if there are some would be good, perhaps from Ukraine with long range target acquisition missiles and drone spotting over the city. Great care to avoid collateral damage to civilians would show the difference between the Ukrainians and the murderous Orks. Perhaps timed for when Putin is in surgery?
Russia and China cannot develop a strong NCO system. That requires independent thought which is exactly what these dictatorships cannot allow if they want to survive.
Regardless of what Ukraine decides to do here Belgorod is critical and vulnerable and it is a legitimate target.
Moscow is a legitimate target. I say the invincible Ukraine army march on Moscow and take the city, then march east and take the rest of Russia. Then they should make a defense pact with the non-nation of Taiwan and overrun and take all of China and have a thousand year dynasty. Because, why not.
Question is, are the Ukies dumb enough to poke the bear?
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The UA knows full well the Russian policy is to use nuclear weapons if it invaded and attacked even by conventional weapons. For a country that cannot yet reclaim a significant portion of its own country due to lack of small arms, ammo and kit, attacking another country is sheer folly - but since both military commands are poor, expect blunders.
Sorry, Putin didn’t need a rational reason for his illicit invasion in the first place. He wouldn’t need one to use any weapons or all.
Naw.
But cutting the Supply lines to Izium!
Pushing in from the West to retake Kherson !
… then on to Melitopol
And retaking Snake Island.
If by USA you mean banksters, globalists, technocrats, 10s of millions of peoples residing here for the gibs and people who absolutely despise you and yours, I guess you'd be correct.
“If by USA you mean banksters, globalists, technocrats, 10s of millions of peoples residing here for the gibs and people who absolutely despise you and yours, I guess you’d be correct.”
Gee, you sound just like Bernie Sanders. Is there anything else you’d like to tell us, Bernie?
“Russia owns the air and sea.”
Indeed. Russia has even sent ships to occupy the bottom of the Black Sea!!!
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You type “Ukraine” as if NATO is making the tactical decisions and supplying their military weapons.
And you type as if your head is inspecting your own colon.
Ukraine's goals are driving the Russia military out of its territory and heading off future invasion attempts. This is why taking back Crimea is a possibility. Attacking Russian territory will not help accomplish these goals.
Under Russian law only an attack on Russian soil is legal justification for a full mobilization. A Russian military operation outside of Russia territory provoking a attack on Russian soil is irrelevant here. Trying to capture Belgorod would give Putin political cover for all his mistakes and give him what he needs to escalate the war.
Inside the Russian government there is no real opposition to Putin's expansionist policies. The entire Russian Federal legislature backed seizing Ukraine. As long as there is no real threat to Russian borders, a full mobilization would trigger real opposition to Putin. Attacking Belgorod would give Putin and his allies a rallying cry to use to justify whatever they want.
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