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No amount of Western money or arms can help Ukraine
The Saker ^ | James Tweedie

Posted on 05/01/2022 3:01:47 PM PDT by ganeemead

No quantity of western money or arms can help Ukraine

The US congress with but 10 dissenting voices in the house and none in the senate, has voted $33B to "help" Ukraine. Kind of like a little Dutch kid sticking his finger in the ocean to try to stop Noah's flood...


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To: Zhang Fei

The T34 are as just rolling off the assembly lines when the Heer was marching on Mother Russia. The Germans were facing obsolete thanks and poorly armed units.
Plus sneak attacks on an incredibly obtuse leadership usually a great start in war


61 posted on 05/01/2022 6:15:03 PM PDT by RedMonqey (Fu%k the Ballot box. Now the Cartridge Box)
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To: jerk

Were there nukes involved? Nope. Why go so fast into being a first class @$$#0/e, such hostility?


62 posted on 05/01/2022 6:24:13 PM PDT by Kevmo (Give back Ukes their Nukes https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4044080/posts)
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To: Signalman

I knew for sure Russia was, wasn’t sure about China. Thanks for bringing me up to date. 🙂


63 posted on 05/01/2022 6:40:50 PM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: Basket_of_Deplorables
"The Uniparty is infected with, “I support the latest thing!” disease. It lowers IQ by 50 points. And apparently FR has been infected, too."

How true...


64 posted on 05/01/2022 6:48:17 PM PDT by ganeemead
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To: kiryandil

FYI, here’s an excellent review of ‘dykes’ (hrmmm…).

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6bnqFwAf7HM


65 posted on 05/01/2022 7:29:33 PM PDT by Carthego delenda est
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To: dennisw
Very interesting interview with Peter Zeihan.

It all hinges on a hard decrease in Russian oil production, combined with an unwillingess to come to terms in Ukraine.

Not sure I agree with those points.

66 posted on 05/01/2022 7:37:54 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Thanks for looking at the youtube video. I watched the entire video..... I am rarely able to do this for any video. You can go to Peter Zeihan’s website and sign up for emails. I did this. He is also on Twitter which is informative.


67 posted on 05/01/2022 7:48:39 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: Kevmo
Indeed, the "obsolete" weapons referred to are:

(1) Soviet era equipment that was previously refurbished and used by NATO's former Warsaw Pact members before being put into ready storage as Western models were introduced. The value of this equipment in part is that Ukraine's military is familiar with it, while the refurbishment made them far more reliable than the original Soviet incarnation.

(2) US manufactured artillery and equivalents from the US and NATO countries that the Ukrainians can be quickly trained on and make use of. These are not so much obsolete as surplus in that in recent years the US and NATO found in Iraq and Afghanistan that smart missiles and artillery smart rounds are so accurate that much less was needed in the way of artillery.

Assuming that the Ukrainians also get smart rounds and the sensors and targeting equipment to use them, the Russians will find that a relatively small contingent of "obsolete" US and similar NATO artillery and smart rounds will have devastating effect and are especially well-suited to the relatively static battle lines that now prevail.

Notably as for vehicle losses, the open source website Oryx has documented the following losses: Ukraine - 957, of which: destroyed: 449, damaged: 22, abandoned: 35, captured: 451, and Russia - 3321, of which: destroyed: 1786, damaged: 58, abandoned: 266, captured: 1209.

This sets a roughly 3.3-1 loss ratio for the Russians, with the Ukrainians suffering a documented loss of about one third of their pre-conflict inventory of tanks, BMPs, and other military vehicles. Actual losses would include undocumented losses and no doubt be considerably higher, offset to a degree because the Ukrainians are putting damaged and captured vehicles back into service where possible.

The Russians will have a difficult time replacing their losses due to sanctions and the poor state of readiness and repair of much of their military inventory. Meanwhile, the Ukrainians are getting much better maintained and more modern equipment and weapons, drawn from US and NATO inventory.

As the conflict continues, the net effect will be a decline in the numbers and relative quality of Russia's weapons and equipment, with Russia's overall military increasingly hollowed out by losses that they cannot replace. In contrast, Ukraine's military will become better equipped, with a greater proportion of modern US and NATO weapons and equipment. And the US and NATO inventory will benefit from higher acquisition budgets and weapons and tactics that are better attuned to the demands of battle.

In the cruel calculus of war, Ukraine and her allies are winning, while Russia and her military are losing and being progressively weakened. By the end of the year, Russia's manufacturing economy will be in chaos due to the loss of essential imported components, and the Russian military will be under increasingly severe pressure due to irreplaceable losses and reverses on the battlefield.

Since Putin seems determined to persist with his war, ending it will require his exit one way or another. Putin's system of autocratic rule will then be dismantled, Ukraine restored and made whole, and Russia forced into an alliance with the West as part of the price of sanctions being lifted. Forced into a proxy conflict with Russia, the US and her allies are not just winning but are playing for keeps.

68 posted on 05/01/2022 8:02:34 PM PDT by Rockingham
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To: ought-six

“It defends Russia from a so-called Anglo-Zionist empire”

The Saker was prominently featured at Unz.com for a few years. I would read or skim what he had to say. His entire theme was Russia/Putin vs the Anglo-Zionists. Whatever that is. I could not understand what he was saying half the time, but he sure was lengthy and rabid. As of a few years ago, he worked as office manager in his wife’s veterinary practice in Florida.

He loved and adored Vlad. Putin could do nothing wrong. I don’t know why he left Unz. He got lots of comments there.

Vineyard of the Saker is his site which seems to be hosted in his Mother Russia.. Look at his comments moderation policy, which is amusing >>>> http://thesaker.is/moderation-policy/


69 posted on 05/01/2022 8:20:44 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: Rockingham

Russia forced into an alliance with the West as part of the price of sanctions being lifted.
***I don’t see that happening. But keep in mind that I didn’t foresee the Berlin Wall coming down.


70 posted on 05/01/2022 8:24:10 PM PDT by Kevmo (Give back Ukes their Nukes https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4044080/posts)
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To: Kevmo

71 posted on 05/01/2022 8:32:58 PM PDT by caww ( )
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To: All

“...But most of this stuff is useless, starting with the much-vaunted Javelin missiles which failed to penetrate the latest explosive-reactive armour (ERA) blocks fitted to Russian tanks. Many of the armoured vehicles being donated belong in museums....”


72 posted on 05/01/2022 9:03:04 PM PDT by ganeemead
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To: caww

I am pro-Ukie but funny image there! I just hope ol Joe gets his cut. He needs the dough, or his family does to inherit. Ol Joe has a lot of hungry mouths to feed, ‘cause his family is a bunch of bums.


73 posted on 05/01/2022 9:03:43 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: caww

You sure spend a lot of time on sumthin you don’t care about.


74 posted on 05/01/2022 9:05:06 PM PDT by Kevmo (Give back Ukes their Nukes https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4044080/posts)
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To: Kevmo

Are you asking that I should explain myself to you?


75 posted on 05/01/2022 9:21:28 PM PDT by caww ( )
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To: jdege

And Ryan and McConnell couldn’t get a fraction of that amount to complete our wall


76 posted on 05/01/2022 10:49:12 PM PDT by nikos1121
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To: Gen.Blather

Russia isn’t going to invade NATO countries.


77 posted on 05/01/2022 11:13:58 PM PDT by Mr. Blond
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To: Kevmo
Here is my reasoning. No matter what happens in Ukraine, Russia's military has been exposed as deeply flawed and gravely damaged by the conflict. A democratic, post-Putin Russian government will need to restore relations with the West, regain access to its markets, and fashion new security arrangements.

No longer a major military power, Russia will also have to choose between the US and NATO or China as their security partner. Once a peace settlement as to Ukraine is agreed on, Russia's greatest security challenge becomes China's aggressive manner and pending territorial claims in Russia's far east. And the natural and best solution to that would be an alliance with the US and the West.

78 posted on 05/01/2022 11:16:11 PM PDT by Rockingham
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To: caww

Are you generating some kind of pretense that your position is going to make sense? Because it doesn’t.


79 posted on 05/02/2022 12:10:16 AM PDT by Kevmo (Give back Ukes their Nukes https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4044080/posts)
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To: Rockingham

Interesting take. It would require Russia to begin acting like a rational player.


80 posted on 05/02/2022 12:12:42 AM PDT by Kevmo (Give back Ukes their Nukes https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4044080/posts)
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