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No amount of Western money or arms can help Ukraine
The Saker ^ | James Tweedie

Posted on 05/01/2022 3:01:47 PM PDT by ganeemead

No quantity of western money or arms can help Ukraine

The US congress with but 10 dissenting voices in the house and none in the senate, has voted $33B to "help" Ukraine. Kind of like a little Dutch kid sticking his finger in the ocean to try to stop Noah's flood...


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America and Americans are sufferinng and our congress votes 100 - 0 (senate) and the house 417 - 10 to resurrect the WW2 lend-lease program to rearm Ukraine with obsolete weapons which will have no way to get to areas of Ukraine where anybody could even think about doing anything with them.

In the context of US politics, the term "bipartisan" means evil "AND" stupid. In real life, the only reason there would ever be for ANYTHING to ever pass the US senate unanimously like that is blackmail.

1 posted on 05/01/2022 3:01:47 PM PDT by ganeemead
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Maybe they’re just waiting to see Putin’s cronies stab him in the back while he’s disabled due to surgery, and looking forward to seeing the resulting feeding frenzy among them in the aftermath...


2 posted on 05/01/2022 3:08:49 PM PDT by jdege
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To: ganeemead

Are you associated with The Saker?


3 posted on 05/01/2022 3:10:13 PM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: ganeemead

All of this is to pour money into our military industrial complex.


4 posted on 05/01/2022 3:11:30 PM PDT by caver
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“In diplomacy there are two kinds of problems, small ones and large ones. The small ones will go away by themselves, and the large ones you will not be able to do anything about.” — Patrick McGuinness

Of course that leaves out problems folks make bigger than they already were, including already big ones, by thinking to always have to do something about them if only because they don’t want to seem to not be doing something.

Foggy Bottoms, aside from having a history of being far too full of commies and useful idiots for commies, also has its share of people who think “something must be done” is actually alone a reasonable cause for doing what usually makes things worse. Of course Congress has far too many of those too. “There ought to be a law!” is domestically the battlecry of people who are loath not seeming busy and caring. Shipping weapons to one side in a war that isn’t ours can be an international version.


5 posted on 05/01/2022 3:12:04 PM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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The Dutch boy stuck his finger in the dyke, not in the ocean.

(Sticking a finger in the dyke meant something different back then.)

During World War II, the Dutch blew the dyke to impede the German invasion.

(Blowing a dyke mean something different back then.)

Dick van Dyke was a popular comedian back in the 1960s.

Dick van Dyke didn’t mean what you might think it means, back then.


6 posted on 05/01/2022 3:13:26 PM PDT by Redmen4ever
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To: ought-six

No. It just pains me to see conservatives falling for this nato/mic crap and I’m trying to add a bit of reality to the conversation here. I’ve never set foot in Russia and have no connection to the Saker. There are other websites with real info wrt Op-Z, the eSaker is simply the best of such.


7 posted on 05/01/2022 3:14:24 PM PDT by ganeemead
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With respect, it certainly seemed effective when practiced by the Reds in Korea and Vietnam—and we all know how that turned out.


8 posted on 05/01/2022 3:14:58 PM PDT by renosemper ( )
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To: Redmen4ever

I have a few pair of dykes in my tool chest


9 posted on 05/01/2022 3:16:16 PM PDT by algore
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to rearm Ukraine with obsolete weapons which will have no way to get to areas of Ukraine where anybody could even think about doing anything with them.

You mean weapons like the M777 howitzer that is so obsolete our own military uses it?

Or the projectile that was so obsolete that it allowed the Ukrainian military to get a first shot hit and kill on a Russian general a day or so ago?

10 posted on 05/01/2022 3:17:39 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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Which in turn will lead to massive political “donations”. Also, you watch, a year from now the headlines will read, “Where did all the money for Ukraine go?”. And then we’ll hear of Ukrainian officials who are suddenly rich with tens of millions in foreign bank accounts.

This is so corrupt. As I continue to say, they want this war. They need it to continue.


11 posted on 05/01/2022 3:18:51 PM PDT by Obadiah ("America is facing a winter of severe illness and death." Biden's own summary of his America.)
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To: Redmen4ever

That Dyke never did learn to avoid the ottoman in the den. Tripped over it every time.

A tripping Dyke meant something else back then.


12 posted on 05/01/2022 3:19:15 PM PDT by gitmo (If your theology doesn't become your biography, what good is i)
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To: ganeemead

So far, advanced western weaponry HAS helped Ukraine, so the premise of this article is completely invalid.


13 posted on 05/01/2022 3:19:42 PM PDT by Kevmo (Give back Ukes their Nukes https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4044080/posts)
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I am sorry, but I was around during the 50’s, 60’s. 70’s etc and I am not going back to a militant hyper warlike rougish Russia if I can help it. The Russians are not winning and the Ukraine is not lost. I saw a picture showing an ocean of Russian soldiers and guess what. Not a one of them was wearing glasses. Just like the Soviet Union the present day Russia does not outfit its soldiers with glasses meaning a lot of them cant see a target much less hit it. And you guys think this incompetent stupid but thuggish country has this war sewed up and their is nothing we can do about it. Yes we can help and we need to help the Ukrainians.


14 posted on 05/01/2022 3:20:14 PM PDT by amnestynone (We are asked by people who do not tolerate us to tolerate the intolerable in the name of tolerance.)
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Korea was being aided by the Chinese, and Vietnam was being aided by Russia

Vietnam was also being aided by the U.S. press and Democrats.

15 posted on 05/01/2022 3:23:21 PM PDT by Robert DeLong
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Ukrainian artillery precisely targets a T-72 tank crew and kills them. Tank is still fine.
16 posted on 05/01/2022 3:23:29 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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[America and Americans are sufferinng and our congress votes 100 - 0 (senate) and the house 417 - 10 to resurrect the WW2 lend-lease program to rearm Ukraine with obsolete weapons which will have no way to get to areas of Ukraine where anybody could even think about doing anything with them.

In the context of US politics, the term “bipartisan” means evil “AND” stupid. In real life, the only reason there would ever be for ANYTHING to ever pass the US senate unanimously like that is blackmail.]


It’s pretty amazing what the Ukrainians are doing with cast-offs and decades-old technology - stalemating the #2 military in the world. By this time (60+ days) into the German invasion of Russia, the Heer had advanced 600 miles into Russia and taken millions of Russian POW’s. The Russians were armed with state of the art gear, including one of the best tanks of the war, the T-34 and had an army several times as large. The Ukrainians, armed with the rusting remnants of equipment from decades ago, are somehow holding Russian gains to within 150 miles of the Russian start line, through what seems like an act of will, despite superior Russian numbers and equipment. With better weaponry, Ukraine should do much better.


17 posted on 05/01/2022 3:24:10 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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Hey ganeemed, whoever the f you are: our congress? You, you personally, have Duma to comment on, not US Congress. None of your business how elected US representatives vote.


18 posted on 05/01/2022 3:24:19 PM PDT by exinnj
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“No. It just pains me to see conservatives falling for this nato/mic crap and I’m trying to add a bit of reality to the conversation here. I’ve never set foot in Russia and have no connection to the Saker. There are other websites with real info wrt Op-Z, the eSaker is simply the best of such.”

The reason I ask, is that it is an admitted franchise in disinformation, with a very pro-Kremlin bent, and virulently anti-Ukraine. It defends Russia from a so-called Anglo-Zionist empire. It is the blog of a guy named Andrei Raevsky.

If this is the best of the pro-Russian sites, I’d hate to see the worst. This thing is right up there with Der Sturmer in the 1920s, 1930s, and 1940s.

Just sayin’.


19 posted on 05/01/2022 3:25:03 PM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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If this headline was true then Pooty would not be going into absolute flaming hissy fits over the aid every few days, constantly threatening everyone with nukes.

“The hit pig squeals the loudest.”


20 posted on 05/01/2022 3:27:20 PM PDT by BiglyCommentary
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