Posted on 04/18/2022 3:26:38 PM PDT by Thunder90
Russian soldiers have installed a Lenin statie in captured Ukrainian territory per twitter.
Zhukov was a murderer. Yes he was better than Stalin, but he was still a murdering thug.
This was of particular interest to me. So, I looked up info:
https://www.nationsencyclopedia.com/economies/Europe/Russia-AGRICULTURE.html
“Primary agriculture in Russia continues to be dominated by inefficient, Soviet-type collective farms with outdated technologies and management skills and strong political connections, especially at the regional level.
Household plots and small private farms comprising only 3% of the agricultural land. The business infrastructure for the agriculture sector is especially underdeveloped including support services, transportation, distribution networks, and financial services. For agriculture in Russia to go through the transformation to a modern system, the key step will be establishing and enforcing farmers’ rights to use land.
The first step in this process is to develop an efficient system of issuing and protecting title to land rights. This will also require a more reliable and enforceable framework for secured financial transactions so that farmers can buy and sell their land or use the land as collateral for obtaining loans.
The economic reform that began in Russia in the early 1990s reduced Russia’s livestock sector. The down-sizing of the livestock sector ended the need for imports of feed grain, soybeans, and meal. At the same time, imports of meat and other high-value products such as processed foods, fruit, and beverages grew considerably.
During the 1998, the economic crisis reduced Russia’s ability to import food. After plunging to extremely low levels in late 1998, agricultural imports rebounded in 1999. Imports of most agricultural and food products grew to roughly 60% of the level of the pre-crisis period. Imports dropped because the crisis reduced consumer incomes, thereby decreasing demand for food in general, and the severe crisis-induced depreciation of the ruble made imported food more expensive compared to Russian domestic output.
THE LARGE FORMER STATE AND COLLECTIVE FARMS CONTROL MOST LAND.
Farm workers can branch off as private farmers by obtaining a grant of land from their parent farm, though they lack full ownership rights. The land code proposed by the Russian legislature (the Duma) DOES NOT CHANGE existing law—that is, it does not allow the free purchase and sale of land for agricultural use. Rather, it would ALLOW land to be BOUGHT and SOLD solely for economically insignificant purposes, such as building a summer cottage, a dacha.”
+1
Oh stop fantasizing. They’re trying to deter a Chinese attack on Taiwan. Something China can avoid simply by staying 100 miles away as they’ve done for the last 70 years.
In 2006 Ukraine was not yet into total rejection of communism.
Remember that the Kiev’s regime was initially a project of the Ukrainian Communist Party (who was the 1st Ukrainian president?)... it took them a while to drift toward nationalism and then Nazis and removal of communist Heritage followed.
Incidentally, it is the Ukrainians that should worship Lenin — he gifted them huge territories which had no connection to Ukraine,... and this is one reason we have a war now.
It is not quite so....
independent, family farms surely exist in Russia today.
but... efficient agriculture requires large farms. Russia always had this problem, and even the Russian empire suffered hunger years every few years!
So the reason why Russia now can export is — in a bizarre way — the forced collectivization of the 1930s by Stalin (intermediate result: yes, large farms, generally filled with people unpaid and unwilling to work) and allowing these farms to behave capitalist under Putin.
You are an incredible optimist. Xi is done with us. This will not end well.
You are an incredible optimist. Xi is done with us. This will not end well.
Of course they do. Duh. But it’s a question of capacity. Basic military doctrine.
Well said IMHO.
Before the current war, the Ukrainians in Lviv turned a statue of Lenin into a statue of Darth Vader.
They do it because Ukrainians don’t want these Lenin statues there.
As O’Brien said in 1984 “[One man asserts his power over another by] making him suffer. Obedience is not enough. Unless he is suffering, how can you be sure that he is obeying your will and not his own? Power is in inflicting pain and humiliation.”
There is a big difference between a civil war and an invasion from a foreign power.
Syria is a pure civil war.
Yemen was a civil war which became civil warS with multiple sides, then invading forces (Saudi and UAE) on behalf of the civil war participants.
Ukraine - if Putin had just invaded the Donbas, would have been similar to Yemen’s case and we wouldn’t have cared.
But putin tried to swallow the country whole. And failed.
Lenin and Stalin are objects of adulation in modern day Russia. People seem to have forgotten the horrors they brought and just think of themselves as being an imperial power.
It’s delusions of past grandeur
And objective study of Vladimir Putin from any number of new sources shows without a shadow of a doubt he is no friend of the United States even if he is a friend of a former president he’s no friend of the stars and stripes and of freedom or of me.
Sheesh just go down to YouTube and look at the National foundation day videos of the puppet regime governments he set up in Eastern Ukraine (Luhansk and Donetsk) and it’s everything: Communist flags, hammer of sickle, Stalinist banners, these people don’t fool me one bit.
Nope. At least not if I interpret you correctly. The farms in Russia are on AVERAGE tiny, not just MODE. So it’s not even that there are a lot of tiny farms with a few huge ones. So, if you’re saying that Stalin’s collectivization has allowed for highly productive mega-farms... no, that’s not it.
Now, I’m NOT going to the opposite extreme either. I’m sure there are SOME mega-farms out there, and from what I’ve read about Russian farms’ crop diversity and what I would expect about distribution, I would imagine that they’re the ones producing food for export. But whereas dividing up oil companies into shares failed disastrously, when collectivist farms were divided up, they thrived: You can’t feed your family with a stock certificate, but you can feed them with a farm.
But some of the same people rush out into the middle of the Ukraine-Russia conflict and believe everything they hear from their favorite side.
That's also a good way to get run over.
Those don’t entirely impress me. I believe that they are real. But I think it’s the same dynamic behind the Ukrainian neo-Nazi armies, which are probably much less typical of Ukraine, but which are also real:
“Back in the Soviet Union, we Russians were united together. We were strong, and we kicked the shit out of these Ukrainians. And they feared us. I want to be united again with my Russian family, I want to be strong. I want to kick the shit out of these Ukrainians. I want them to fear us. Let’s live once more the glories of the Soviet Union!”
The issue with small farms is that they can keep their owners affluent but incapable of producing enough output to feed the entire population of the country. This is the cause of repeated famines in Russian Empire and the continuing pattern in early USSR (1920s-1930s), and it is the combining of small plots that eliminated famines in the 1930s.
If we look at the current structure (and I’m not an expert, but I found what seems to be a good reference)
https://rujec.org/article/49746/
we see
well, it is the Krasnodar area that has most of the large farm and also produces most of the food!
(and of course the reason is because in most areas even large farms cannot be efficient — the land is horrible.)
So... in terms of number of farms — surely there are more small ones. In terms of feeding the population and allowing exports -— they are less important.
But in terms of the number of farms (and likely the number of people employed), then yes, you are correct. Another quote:
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