Posted on 04/10/2022 6:06:50 AM PDT by GonzoII
They don't even need to do that.
Think about all those LNG tankers the Euro-peeings are counting on to replace cheap Russian natgas.
And now think about all the anonymous antitank and antiaircraft missiles the West has been spreading across Ukraine like throwing candy at a parade.
Oh, no, you are exactly correct.
I don’t put killing their own people past any Government. Those are my views all right.
It’s called democide and it is quite common.
Stick with ‘ol Sarcazmo and you’ll be all right. Why I wouldn’t be surprised if I wasn’t saying “I told you so” in a couple weeks. But I would never rub it in like that.
With all the proven Russia caused death and destruction, it takes a sick mind to imagine what gain Ukraine would achieve by adding their own false flag.
You are welcome to say ‘I told you so’ so long as you are also willing to say you were wrong when the evidence shows otherwise.
By the way, we have systems that can observe any rocket launch anywhere in the world, determine its launch point, flight trajectory, and estimate impact zone. If Zelensky launched the rail station rocket from Ukrainian controlled territory, we would know this. That can’t be faked out.
“it takes a sick mind”
No it takes a student of history, that’s all.
“we have systems”
We have systems, indeed. What they can do seems a little overstated. Think on this.
Anything can be faked out. Recent history (the last two years or so) demonstrates this.
In this case, no over statement. We have been able to detect and track missile launches as part of our nuclear defense for decades. Research SBIRS.
...know or admit?
Think of the Gretchen Whitmer kidnapping plot.
If Urkaine had been given these weapons 5-8 years ago, there is a very good chance that Russia would not even have considered invading.
That would have been a good thing.
Ukraine having them now is better than the alternative - an even greater bully in Russia -— an example for Red China to see how successful they could be in their imperialist intentions.
Everyone here is viewing this through a political prism. Missile launches are monitored by the CoComs, like CentCom, PaCom, etc. Those are combat centers. They have alerting functions to notify military units and assets of things like launches, incoming strikes, etc. So there is a layer there that is not interested in politics, it is interested in detecting and tracking launches, and alerting troops and units to this.
While these functions take place inside secure facilities, these are soldiers and sailors who man these watches. So these folks know. And while they may not be at liberty to go out and make public statements about these ‘events’, I have a fairly high confidence that if these missiles were being fired on their own people by Ukranians, we would have heard this from some reliable source. Since we have not, I have high confidence that what they are seeing and monitoring are Russian launches and thats pretty much what one would expect.
If it was just some high brass or CIA or some other agency and political appointees that saw the data, I can see hiding such data. But too many regular warriors have knowledge about it. I dont find it believable that such a false flag operation could be hidden.
Now do the clot shots.
We are providing targeting data for the UA, and would surely do so if they had ASMs. That said, I doubt they will be getting Harpoons. First, the UK doesn't even have the Harpoon Coastal Defense system, only the Air, Ship and Sub launched versions. Second, they would require significant training or have a very high risk of killing the wrong ship. From what I hear, the Brits are probably sending Brimstone Sea Spear systems. They are a much smaller and more portable system, very short range and could probably be supplied in significant numbers. They are based on the US Hellfire missile, thus the name "Hellfire and Brimstone". They could definitely wreak havoc on an amphibious landing.
Thanks Master Chief 👍
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