Posted on 04/01/2022 10:22:33 AM PDT by blam
In a significant escalation that is sure to have huge impact not only on the prospect for direct Russia-NATO military confrontation but also Europe’s energy crisis and natural gas showdown with Moscow, Germany has approved “tanks” for Ukraine.
“Germany has approved the delivery of 56 combat tanks to Ukraine, a German defense ministry spokesperson told CNN Friday,” according to a breaking report. But more specifically these are in actuality ‘infantry fighting vehicles’ – and lighter than what CNN is referencing as conventional “combat tanks”.
The ministry described to CNN that “The tanks, which are type Pbv 501, stem from the Cold War-era East German army and had been sold to Sweden, then resold to the Czech Republic, who will deliver them to Ukraine.”
Final approval is expected to come pending review by the country’s Federal Security Council, as stipulated under the German War Weapons Control Act.
The 56 PbV-501 armored personnel carriers are expected to be equipped with cannons and machine guns. Reuters details the nature of the heavy armored vehicles as follows:
Germany has approved the delivery to Ukraine of several dozen infantry fighting vehicles (IFVs) that originally belonged to the former communist East Germany amid criticism that Berlin is not sending enough military aid to Kyiv.
Berlin has given the green light for 56 vehicles of the type PbV-501 to be passed on from a Czech company to Kyiv, a spokesman for the defense ministry said on Friday.
So Germany has gone in a little over a month from being ‘neutral’ on weapons for foreign conflict, refusing to allow even third parties from shipping German-produced weapons to Ukraine, to now shipping some serious heavy military machinery.
For all the harping everywhere on Germany over military aid to Ukraine, they’re the first ones to send (or rather, approve sending ex-theirs) infantry fighting vehicles for Ukraine. Great EU collaboration of MS involved (🇨🇿🇩🇪). No, it’s not a tank, despite the turret. pic.twitter.com/p2RtX2wS3o
— Jakub Jaraczewski (@J_Jaraczewski) April 1, 2022
And even though these old east German troop carriers will do little to stand up to Russia’s actual tank units, Kiev is likely to seize on this as at least a start leading possibly to the transfer of more up-to-date combat tanks from the West capable of blunting Russian infantry.
The payments are coming on the third week of the month. And it will be rubles.
These particular vehicles are not tanks but are actually remanufactured, upgraded Russian infantry fighting vehicles left over from the Cold War. With a small gun and armor that can stop bullets but not cannon shells or missiles, they will be useful for the Ukrainians as infantry battle taxis but little else. Yet that is what the Ukrainians desperately need in order to provide better mobility to their infantry squads as they deploy their Javelins against Russian tanks, IFVs, and other vehicles.
You keep being being wrong about this. No credibility.
You was always wrong on everything we argued and I am now “wrong” again. LOL.
These are junk.
Just like the SA7 they are sending.
Old Cold War era junk. Material that isn’t viable.
“We’re willing to fight Putin to the very last Ukrainian!!”
—Germany
Krauts, Blockheads, Goons. Heinie, squareheads, etc.
and they are not functionality different in terms of mentality. They still think they are superior to all other nations and qualified to inject their wisdom into any situation. Don’t believe me? Just ask them.
Exhibit A... they are so tone deaf they are deeply involved in Ukraine. They should STFU on that nation for about 500 years or so.
Yes they are. But "Jerrys" and "Blockheads" works just as well.
2. They don't "goose-step." Those were the Nazis, who are long gone.
Sure they do. It's their national dance. Sort of like the Waltz is for Austria or the Mazurka in Poland or Jig for Ireland.
Do you like it when someone equates all Americans with slaveowners?
Doesn't bother me, but then again I'm not a pussy who gets upset about being called things
3. The U.S. calls the shots for NATO, especially for Germany. If Germany is doing this, it's at the behest of the Neocons controlling Biden.
Yeah, that's unfortunate. We should toss NATO to the curb, along with the UN.
The were planning to move them to the US.
Of course the Russian army is currently the largest supplier of armored vehicles to Ukraine.
What happens if the ‘Expert Class’ declares War and no one shows up? Can’t wait til Biden institutes the Draft.
We should protest and demand they protect the citizens caught inbetween.
In other news, USA to provide Strykers as replacement for the German Infantry Carriers that were donated to Ukraine.
If you need to update your equipment now is the time to trade up.
It doesn’t say when they are being delivered.
Isn’t that really key information?
If they stated that they are waiting until the end of hostilities, it wouldn’t be so controversial?
Oh, is that so?
Could I then call you a Scheißami next time? /s off
P. S.: on this day, you’d be welcome to call me a (bleep)ing cripple or whatever floats your boat. No problem at all for me.
Boris, at least try to make your stuff believable, else it’s simply no fun debunking it.
That’s all the arguments you are producing. Never a thing on the substance.
Why post 9 articles showing Germany will not be be paying in rubles to you? It’s an utter and absolute waste of time. Like trying hold a conversation with a deaf mute.
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