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Farmers On The Brink
Zubu Brothers ^ | 3-27-2022 | Doomberg via doomberg.substack.com

Posted on 03/27/2022 9:45:07 AM PDT by blam

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To: blam

Hmmm....no fertilizer and no weed killer....can they be any more obvious, with what they’re doing?


41 posted on 03/27/2022 4:24:54 PM PDT by Jane Long (What we were told was a “conspiracy theory” in 2020 is now fact. 🙏🏻 Ps 33:12)
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To: blam

Congratulations!

You have been able to post another article that was originally published by ZeroHedge.

I still do not understand why directly referencing a ZeroHedge article is bad, but to reference the same article repeated on another source is OK.

Help me out here, please.


42 posted on 03/27/2022 5:06:56 PM PDT by Wish2Post
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To: Augie

Well, I don’t rely totally on others for my food supply!


43 posted on 03/27/2022 7:45:31 PM PDT by Pete from Shawnee Mission ( )
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To: JohnDeereGreen

I know several dairy farmers in NE WI that are going back to the old ways.

My best friends nephew, who took over his farm and milks 50, is going to forgo any soybeans this year and no shelled corn. He has been talking to me on how to hook up an old vibra shank behind his manure tank spreader to knife the liquid manure directly into the ground. Took some doing but its ready and will work.
He can get fertilizer, but like you said, it’ll kill him financially.
So..they’ll knife the manure into the ground and get onto the fields straight after and plant after some seed prep. They are not going to plant till the ground is good and warm to get the corn up before the weeds so they can cultivate. He is fixing his old WD45 up which had a six row cultivator to get on to cultivate.
So it will be peas and oats into the silo along with the first cutting hay, and oats for ground feed for the cows and the corn will all get chopped into the silo in the fall. No soybeans, no combining corn. Figures the savings from paying to have the corn and beans custom combined will make it about even as far as costs.
Of course the Oats will get the usual minerals and salt and all that when the feed is ground.
Losing the soybeans means a hell of a loss of protein. He will lose butter fat count no doubt. What he has to learn is not to give the same rations to the dry cows and the producing cows-that is something they taught him in the out of book ag school he went to. No reason to feed dry cows production cow feed...I.E ground feed. The kids were taught that it is easier to simply mix it altogether and feed it out. Kid is about to learn the old ways and his uncle will teach him.
Small dairy farmer will survive if they have any old timers around to show them.

The big grain and large dairy farmers are looking at hard times.
What a mess this POTUS has created. And he does not care.


44 posted on 03/27/2022 8:36:03 PM PDT by crz
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To: blam

Learn to code.


45 posted on 03/27/2022 8:37:40 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: JohnDeereGreen

And BTW. Pray for the right amount of rain.

Like you said, we will all get there, just have to re-learn how to do it.

Wont be no 180 to 200 ac bushel corn though...safe bet. I guess they have been getting that in Iowa.


46 posted on 03/27/2022 8:52:45 PM PDT by crz
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To: hardspunned

I had an Oklahoma wheat farmer, on this forum, tell me his yield could be off as much as 50% if he had to plant with no fertilizer. If that’s the case globally, we are already screwed.


Or it could be that with all the fertilizer in the world and a dry crop year.

he will buy crop insurance with govt subsidy. Nobody is going to lose money, but we might not complain with our mouthful next year.


47 posted on 03/27/2022 8:55:03 PM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: JohnDeereGreen

Time to go back to “America First “, and prioritize this nations interest over any other country. Welfare recipients will have to work. If it takes a Civilian Corps like in the Depression so be it.


48 posted on 03/28/2022 12:41:38 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dreams)
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To: Ellendra; JohnDeereGreen
He ain't lyin'.

In a broader look at increasing agricultural productions costs, Laura Reiley reported in today’s Washington Post that, “[Illinois farmer Richard Guebert’s] fertilizer cost was $510 a ton last year, he said. This year, it’s $1,508.”

The Post article pointed out that, “Jed Bower farms corn and soy in southwest Ohio. He is hoping to start planting this year’s crops the second week in April, but he’s nervous not just about the prices of the chemicals he needs, but also about their availability.”

https://agfax.com/2022/03/22/fertilizer-prices-break-new-records-stir-food-security-concerns-with-elevated-commodity-prices/

I've read that some farmers will swap from corn to soybeans if they have the choice because it takes less fertilizer. Corn is in everything. People food, animal food, cosmetics, beverages, gasoline.

https://www.responsibletechnology.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Corn-Products-Derivatives-06-06-17.pdf

https://kscorn.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Common-Items-Containing-Corn.pdf

Some very surprising things on that second list. Spark plugs, envelopes ... and they're working on making rubber products from corn instead of petroleum based ingredients, tires, running shoes. For the environment of course. We're so screwed. The inmates are running the asylum.

49 posted on 03/28/2022 8:03:20 AM PDT by Pollard (PureBlood -- https://youtube.com/watch?v=VXm0fkDituE)
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To: hardspunned; Ellendra

Vinegar is good for weed control in the home garden, plus, you can make Pickles and Sauerkraut! :)

Also, there’s this handy tool called a, ‘hoe.’ But it only works when you do! ;)

P.S. I HATE to weed so I mulch everything with straw. When a weed pops up, it’s easy to isolate and pull.


50 posted on 03/28/2022 8:20:14 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

I’ve tried using vinegar on a larger scale. It doesn’t work so well in bigger gardens.

And nobody is going to hoe acres and acres by hand!

This year I’m testing “living mulch”. Basically planting short, tightly-spaced plants around the taller crops, in the hopes that they’ll make it harder for the weeds to get through. With the corn, I’ll be using dwarf marigolds as the mulch crop, to see if they’ll also cut down on insect damage. I’ve heard of cabbage farms using marigolds to deter cabbage moths, so I’m hoping they’ll do something similar to corn earworms.

In some sections, the mulch crop is something useful in itself. There will be beets, basil, radishes, and other small-but-tasty plants in the mix. We’ll see how that works.


51 posted on 03/28/2022 10:16:13 AM PDT by Ellendra (A single lie on our side does more damage than a thousand lies on their side.)
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To: JD_UTDallas
Most people on this planet will never produce in their lifetimes more benefits for society via productive efforts ,scientific research, or cultural assets than the resources they consume they are by definition unproductive eaters. It’s cold but an absolute fact.

You are definitely on the wrong forum. I recommend the addle-brained misanthropy forum for you. None of these "cold, hard absolute facts" about human population has ever come to fruition -- from Malthus to Paul Erlich, to the modern crop of climate change catastrophists.
52 posted on 03/28/2022 10:28:36 AM PDT by Antoninus (Republicans are all honorable men.)
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To: Ellendra

Sounds like a plan, Stan! I wanted to talk about Permaculture beds/gardening before we get too heavily into the growing season. I’ll ping you for your input that week. (This upcoming week or next; not sure yet.)

I was just talking home gardens. I have NO idea what you’d do on a larger scale - other than more bales of straw. ;)


53 posted on 03/28/2022 11:02:58 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
I have NO idea what you’d do on a larger scale - other than more bales of straw. ;)

I suspect that non-dwarf grains might become popular again for that reason. Dwarf grains work great as long as there are herbicides available and machines to harvest with. But they don't compete well against weeds on their own, are miserable to try and harvest without a machine, and give very little straw. Tall varieties might be more at risk for lodging, but they can outgrow at least some of the weeds, can be harvested from a standing position if they're tall enough, and give lots of straw for mulching with next year. One of the wheat varieties I'm testing can supposedly grow up to 7 feet tall!!!
54 posted on 03/28/2022 11:40:43 AM PDT by Ellendra (A single lie on our side does more damage than a thousand lies on their side.)
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