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Local mutinies don't mean much, but they bear watching. Red October is generally held to have begun with the mutiny aboard the battleship Potemkin. Over a decade earlier, a war that started with a much weaker Japan ended up in an abortive revolution:

Military leaders and senior tsarist officials agreed before the war that Russia was a much stronger nation and had little to fear from the Empire of Japan. The fanatical zeal of the Japanese infantrymen astonished the Russians, who were dismayed by the apathy, backwardness, and defeatism of their own soldiers.[79] The defeats of the Army and Navy shook Russian confidence. Throughout 1905, the Imperial Russian government was rocked by revolution. The population was against escalation of the war. The empire was certainly capable of sending more troops but this would make little difference in the outcome due to the poor state of the economy, the embarrassing defeats of the Russian Army and Navy by the Japanese, and the relative unimportance to Russia of the disputed land made the war extremely unpopular.[80] Tsar Nicholas II elected to negotiate peace so he could concentrate on internal matters after the disaster of Bloody Sunday on 9 January 1905.

If Putin feels his reign to be threatened by internal rivals - including from his subordinates, he will likely withdraw to deal with them, one way or another, as Nicholas II did, successfully, until he was undone by the unanticipated disaster of WWI, where 2m Russian troops were killed.

1 posted on 03/20/2022 4:32:36 PM PDT by Zhang Fei
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I think Ukranians are getting help that is not being talked about. Their successes are too out-sized for the size of their military.


2 posted on 03/20/2022 4:34:55 PM PDT by Jonty30 ( I am an extremely responsible person. When something goes wrong, my boss asks if I was responsible.)
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Putin screwed up so badly.


4 posted on 03/20/2022 4:36:09 PM PDT by toddausauras (How far will the left go in terms of destroying our personal freedoms?)
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MMM... can you say fragging boys and girls? Sure you can 🤣


5 posted on 03/20/2022 4:36:43 PM PDT by Lockbox (politicians, they all seemed like game show hosts to me.... Sting)
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The media lies about Biden.
The media lies about COVID.
The media lies about Ukraine.
The media lies about Russia.

What sort of person chooses to believe the lies?


6 posted on 03/20/2022 4:38:25 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Ukraine is not a good country and does not deserve active US support.)
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To: All

Just so everyone know the source:

This publication is Bill Kristol’s International Neocon Central.

The Institute for the Study of War is a front.

Nothing they say should be believed under any and all circumstances.


10 posted on 03/20/2022 4:45:38 PM PDT by Mariner (War criminal #18)
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The Ukrainian Ministry of Defense reported...
11 posted on 03/20/2022 4:45:44 PM PDT by McGruff (It's America First, stupid.)
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My prediction, there’s gonna be a war soon in the United States.


14 posted on 03/20/2022 4:55:26 PM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera )
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20 posted on 03/20/2022 5:27:24 PM PDT by Basket_of_Deplorables (Putin is behaving rationally. The war is on Biden and Obama.)
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goodski!

it is one less russian to waste good ammo for!!


24 posted on 03/20/2022 5:41:45 PM PDT by Terry L Smith
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For what it’s worth, a military report from a different source than Bill Krystal…

https://t.me/AussieCossack/2062

And I’m not vouching for your article or this one…

But some interesting comparison to Germany’s advance.


27 posted on 03/20/2022 5:58:30 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything.)
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VDV song (Updated Full version)

https://youtu.be/AL-rdzMo1MU

English subtitles with satire slanted to Ukraine!


28 posted on 03/20/2022 6:03:24 PM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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Everyone should realize who the “Instituted for the Study of War” is

The director’s sister-in-law is Victoria Nuland, architect of the 2014 Maidan Coup. Her husband and brother in law are brothers Frederick and Robert Kagan - flag-bearers of DC neocon ideology

They are funded by Brookings Institute and major US defense contractors. Their board also includes people like William Kristol

So read all their information with that in mind.


29 posted on 03/20/2022 6:04:08 PM PDT by PGR88
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