Posted on 03/07/2022 5:01:33 AM PST by blam
Belarusian state TV has said the Russian delegation has arrived at the location where on Monday at about 14:00GMT/09:00EST the third round of talks with the Ukrainian side are set to begin. So far the ongoing talks have been focused on establishing and maintaining humanitarian corridors for the safe evacuation of civilians still trapped in cities under siege by Russian forces. But these have been erected and collapsed in various locations with limited effectiveness, given Kiev has accused Russia of breaking the temporary ceasefire pauses through the resumption of shelling, something which Russia’s military has rejected.
Just ahead of the meeting, the Kremlin issued a list of demands to be accomplished if Ukraine wants the Russian invasion to be halted immediately. These includes, according to the Kremlin spokesman, the recognition of Crimea as part of sovereign Russian territory, as well as Donetsk and Lugansk as independent states.
The spokesman said that if these conditions are met, then Russian military action will “stop in a moment”. And crucially the statement said Ukraine must amend its constitution to definitively reject any claims or aspirations to enter any bloc – which is a condition obviously focused on the NATO military alliance.
Also on Monday, Russia’s defense ministry declared four new humanitarian ceasefires locally in Ukraine in order to facilitate a civilian evacuation window…
“The Russian Armed Forces announce a ceasefire from 10 o’clock in the morning and are opening humanitarian corridors from Kiev, Kharkov, Sumy and Mariupol, Russia’s Inter-Agency Humanitarian Response Coordination Center reported on Monday,” it announced according to TASS.
After trading near session lows at the start of the US session amid a sea of red that sent many European bourses into a red market, futures bounced hard after Russia floated the above-listed conditions to “immediately” end the war in Ukraine.
The MoD statement said further, “Considering the catastrophic humanitarian situation and its dramatic deterioration in the cities of Kiev, Kharkov, Sumy and Mariupol, and also at the personal request by President of the French Republic Emmanuel Macron to President of the Russian Federation Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin, the Armed Forces of Russia announce a ceasefire from 10:00 on March 7, 2022 for humane purposes and are opening humanitarian corridors.”
However, President Volodymyr Zelensky has issued fresh rejections that Russia honored its limited cease-fire agreements. “We will punish everyone who committed atrocities in this war,” he said Monday. “There will be no quiet place on this earth for you. Except for the grave.”
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Ukraine isn’t democratic enough to join the eu
Rebellious subjects; enemies to peace. Throw your mis-tempered weapons to the ground!
Ukraine isn’t democratic enough to join the eu
And Serbia is?
"respect the independence and sovereignty and existing borders.of Ukraine."
Russia signed that, crapped all over it anyway with the 2p14 invasion of Crimea, and tore it to shreds with this invasion. Any Russian promise to not invade Ukraine or any other place in the future isn't worth the paper it is printed on. This Russians themselves proved that conclusive.
What Russia has done is illustrate perfectly why Ukraine is completely justified in wanting membership in NATO. Because absent that, they are sitting ducks.
Your welcome to choose which agreements that Russia should stand by, and we’ll choose which agreements Europe/NATO should stand by.
That’s fine.
“What Russia has done is illustrate perfectly why Ukraine is completely justified in wanting membership in NATO. Because absent that, they are sitting ducks.”
Kind of like Finland and Austria during the Cold War, when the Soviets (i.e., Russians) agreed to leave them alone if they stayed neutral?
Are they no longer demanding “denazification” and demilitarization? Just official neutrality?
If that’s so, it’s likely the war is going poorly for putin.
This looks like the real story - Ukraine formally cedes Crimea, allows the independence of the breakaway republics, and pledges never to join NATO, and the war ends immediately. NATO forces have no real way to prevent Russia from taking these objectives, so everything else is just talk to burnish the media profiles of certain Western leaders - particularly the senile one.
“What Russia has done is illustrate perfectly why Ukraine is completely justified in wanting membership in NATO. Because absent that, they are sitting ducks.”
Kind of like Finland and Austria during the Cold War, when the Soviets (i.e., Russians) agreed to leave them alone if they stayed neutral?
Are we sure NATO are the good guys.
They should agree to that. It buys them time -- to beef up their defenses against any future invasion. Next time anyone encourages them to disarm, they'll think twice.
Meanwhile they rebuild with the respect of most nations, and Putin has a lot of egg on his face, while Russia will be convalescing from this debacle for years.
“Are we sure NATO are the good guys.”
They were the good guys during the Cold War. But my thinking about them changed when the bombed the crap out of civilian targets to bring Serbia to its knees during the Kosovo Campaign. They did that to avoid NATO causalities. Thankfully it wasn’t considered war crimes since we control the bodies that make that determination.
I personally find Russia's actions over the last 7 years, as executed by Putin, to be more probative of what Russia is likely to do in the future than what happened 70 years ago under Khruschev.
Putin has proven that he is completely willing to violate agreements signed by Russia if he believes it is in Russia's interest. He absolutely cannot be trusted.
“Putin has proven that he is completely willing to violate agreements signed by Russia if he believes it is in Russia’s interest. He absolutely cannot be trusted.”
Again, you’re welcome to select which agreements that Putin violated and ignore what happened regarding other agreements.
Even if Russia ends this right now it’s not over because Zelensky is vengeful.
The Russians got the butt kicked by Finland in the late 1930’s.
It was a serious A$$ kicking.
Please look up the war of 1939 when Russia invaded Finland.
There is a story of the Hero’s of Finland about a sniper that killed over 500 Russians.
What other agreements are you referring to?
Of course you are right, sigh! But one can hope.
Is that the Borat News Service from Great and Glorious Republic of Russiastan?
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