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Law Student Complains about a Question; Professor Sentenced to Re-education Camp
James G. Martin Center for Academic Renewal ^ | March 2, 2022 | George Leef

Posted on 03/02/2022 11:26:13 AM PST by karpov

Law students are adults who have completed an undergraduate degree. They’re in a professional school to learn the law, procedures, and skills they’ll need in a conflict-ridden, frequently harsh world. You would expect that they would act accordingly.

Sadly, that’s not always the case. As we’ll see, law students can be petty and vindictive.

And you would also expect that the people who run law schools would act like responsible scholars, defending their faculty members against groundless attacks.

Sadly, that’s not always the case either. As we’ll see, law school administrators can act like craven cowards, scurrying away from academic principles at the first hint of trouble.

Welcome to the case of Jason Kilborn, a professor at the University of Illinois-Chicago law school. He has been on the faculty since 2010, teaching civil procedure, evidence, and other courses.

In his final exam in civil procedure in the fall 2020 term, one of his questions read:

'Employer’s lawyer traveled to meet the manager, who stated that she quit her job after she attended a meeting in which other managers expressed their anger at Plaintiff, calling her a “n_____” and “b_____” (profane expressions for African Americans and women) and vowed to get rid of her. Later, Plaintiff’s lawyer served an interrogatory demanding the identity and location of any person with information related to the termination of Plaintiff’s employment or any agent of Employer. Can Employer identify the former manager but properly withhold her location, as this is the product of a significant amount of work and expense by Employer’s attorney?'

Professor Kilborn had used the same wording in past exams without any trouble, but not this time.

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TOPICS: Education
KEYWORDS: bidenvoters; education; lawschool; race
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1 posted on 03/02/2022 11:26:13 AM PST by karpov
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To: karpov

So these apparently liberal would-be lawyers, who I’m sure view discrimination litigation as being on the side of the angels, are too delicate even to read redacted versions of words they surely would have to be exposed to while pursuing that specialty??? Houston, I think we have a problem.


2 posted on 03/02/2022 11:31:03 AM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: karpov

The person who complained should never be admitted to the bar. What will he or she do when he or she is in a real world courtroom or deposition chamber and hears “n_____” or “b_____”? Run to his/her safe space? Complain to the judge about bad people saying bad words that hurt his/her feelings? Curl up in a fetal ball and suck his/her thumb?


3 posted on 03/02/2022 11:31:17 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (If truckers quit their jobs, society would collapse. If politicians quit their jobs...HALLELUJAH!)
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4 posted on 03/02/2022 11:32:04 AM PST by Magnum44 (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic...)
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To: karpov

Did the student complain about the derogatory terms (easy to guess which ones were used) or by the professor referring to the plaintiff as “she” and “her” (assuming her gender identification)?


5 posted on 03/02/2022 11:32:09 AM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: karpov

And since when are the N- and B-words profane?? I could buy inappropriate, colloquial, insulting, vulgar etc., but does this prof even know what the word p-word means??


6 posted on 03/02/2022 11:33:32 AM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: karpov

Some law students are unable to think objectively.
They will instantly take what they hear as a personal insult.
This is a stupid law student, with self imposed limitations.
This professor would be better off switching to another law school, but an instructor changing schools is easier said than done.


7 posted on 03/02/2022 11:33:32 AM PST by lee martell
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To: karpov

The only people I know who curse worse than military are lawyers.

Both generally have pretty good reasons to curse, too.


8 posted on 03/02/2022 11:41:08 AM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: karpov

The student is a product of the profoundly proud Leftist controlled education system. The school backed the student, simply because the Left will do vastly more damage to the school than a single terminated professor. That, plus the administration is also a product of the Leftist controlled education system.


9 posted on 03/02/2022 11:43:08 AM PST by robel
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This is why we need to homeschool our youth.


10 posted on 03/02/2022 11:51:34 AM PST by No name given (Anonymous is who you’ll know me as. )
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To: karpov

Does this aspiring lawyer think he or she will never hear these words in a courtroom?


11 posted on 03/02/2022 11:56:20 AM PST by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing obamacare is worse than obamacare itself)
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To: karpov

Apparently the professor sued.

So, if the school settles with the professor, will the student burn the school down? If they fight the professor in court and lose, will the students burn the school down?

Touch choice for the school.

If I was the professor I would accept any cash settlement, before they, you know, burn the school down.


12 posted on 03/02/2022 12:02:51 PM PST by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing obamacare is worse than obamacare itself)
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To: karpov

My guess is that the student flunked the exam or got a lower score than what he was happy with.

The test question actually advances the cause of a wrongfully terminated black employees.


13 posted on 03/02/2022 12:38:30 PM PST by WASCWatch ( WASC)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

What will she do? She will yell at the judge, walk out to the courthouse step for a press conference, and then call for people to fill the streets and express their anger.


14 posted on 03/02/2022 12:43:11 PM PST by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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To: Still Thinking

this prof even know what the word p-word means??


Yes it applies to our would be lords and mistresses. You can tell them by their very loud, inappropriate screeching, demanding free stuff, while calling on everyone not of their color to give them money and more money. Obviously they are Gods and deserve Godly treatment ... for every last n... and h...


15 posted on 03/02/2022 1:08:45 PM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: karpov

My guess is that this was retaliation for the professor not engaging in “affirmative grading”.


16 posted on 03/02/2022 1:14:50 PM PST by PapaBear3625 (We live in a time where intelligent people are being silenced so stupid people won’t be offended)
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To: karpov

So much for tenure protection


17 posted on 03/02/2022 1:18:42 PM PST by ConjunctionJunction (Vim vi repellere licet)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Just because the complainer can end up with a law degree does not a lawyer make them. They still have to take and pass a state bar test.


18 posted on 03/02/2022 1:21:22 PM PST by Gaffer
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To: Gaffer

It seems that Chicago is a cesspool in more ways than one.


19 posted on 03/02/2022 1:41:57 PM PST by Bookshelf
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To: Bookshelf

Yep....all you need to is look at what they elected mayor, IMO.


20 posted on 03/02/2022 1:44:01 PM PST by Gaffer
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