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What is Really Going on in Ukraine? An Alternative Scenario
Gateway Pundit ^ | Feb. 28, 2022 | Larry Johnson

Posted on 02/28/2022 5:38:24 AM PST by Rennes Templar

The Western media is filled with stories of the brave Ukrainian people rising up to fight the evil Russians and the Russians are paying a terrible toll, or so we are told. But if you step back and look at what is actually transpiring you will note the following:

Unlike the U.S. “shock and awe” unleashed on Baghdad in 2003, which caused significant civilian casualties and destroyed infrastructure and damaged power grids and destroyed bridges, the Russian military is avoiding hitting population centers. The power is still on in Kiev and Kharkiv last I checked.

You are not seeing raging battles in the streets of Kiev or Kharkov between Ukrainian and Russian military forces.

Some believe this indicates Putin’s troops are bogged down and making little progress. But I think there is an alternative explanation. First, Russia has not deployed its most sophisticated weaponry. It remains in place in Russia on the Ukrainian border but showing no signs as of this writing of being activated. Second, little attention is being paid to eastern Ukraine where the bulk of the Ukrainian Army is deployed. Jacob Dreizin offers some important insight on this:

You won’t hear this on CNN, but Putin’s Army of Darkness, in the most complex and ambitious ground maneuver operation since World War 2, following the Soviet “deep war” playbook, is also working on cutting off the Ukrainian army group in the Donbass from Kiev. This is by far the most capable (or only capable) large portion of the Ukrainian army. Yesterday, its main reserves of diesel fuel were destroyed from the air. It will soon be cut off and immobile.

Once that happens, the entire Donbass front collapses (they will no longer have a “front”), and BILLIONS of dollars in U.S.-funded or U.S.-supplied weaponry will be captured almost without a battle. (To be clear, it’s almost all U.S. funded or supplied—even most of the Soviet vintage stuff was bought and shipped in from Poland, Czechia, etc. by the CIA, “off the books” but well documented in videos of tank trains crossing the border into Ukraine, in 2015-2016.)

The Russians have finally entered Kharkov, Ukraine’s second largest city, very close to the Russian border. Previously, they had bypassed it the same way that America bypassed every town in southern Iraq to reach Baghdad in 2003. On Saturday night, they finally wasted all significant, organized resistance with a rain of thermobaric death in the outskirts. Today, they started to go in and mop up. Of course, it’s not a job for one day.

The Ukrainian army is falling back (mostly in organized fashion) throughout the Donbass. They have largely evacuated Mariupol, a very pro-Russian, major steelmaking and steel-shipping center (responsible for billions of dollars in exports) on the Sea of Azov. The sole garrison in Mariupol is now said to be the Azov regiment, a group of bona fide, tattooed Nazis—you know, your typical Ukrainian democracy guys, the ones the MSM doesn’t tell you about, and our State Department prefers to ignore. The kind of guys you must use to garrison a pro-Russian city that hates you.

The “real” army looks to be falling back to Dnepropetrovsk, about 60 miles west of Donetsk, if the Russians don’t cut them off—that’s now the big “if.” Either way, they’ll get hit badly from the air.

They are leaving behind lots of brand spanking new, British and American weaponry. I wish I had time to make a photo collage for you. It turns out, the stuff doesn’t work well. Among other things, you have to charge the battery on those Javelins or whatever. No charge, no fire. No one told them. I guess they had so many dumped on them, it was not realistic to plug them all into the wall, and sit there and wait. I can relate, I don’t even like waiting to charge one new smartphone.

The Ukrainian Air Force, what is left of it, is now flying on Helen Keller terms. It seems that Ukraine combat aircraft rely on ground controlled radar to conduct air to air intercepts. Guess what the Russians obliterated in the first hours of their invasion on Wednesday? If you said, “ground controlled radar” you are a winner.

Without that radar the Russians have air superiority. They have castrated the Ukrainians ability to provide close air support and disrupt Russian air cover. They are flying blind (if they are flying and can find an operational air field.) Then there are the lines of communication for the Ukrainian Army. Critical military fuel dumps are on fire and the ability of the Ukrainian Army to keep their tanks and trucks running is slipping away.

This perhaps explains the volte face of Zelensky in being willing to sit down with the Russians and try to negotiate an end to the evisceration of Ukraine’s military capability.


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To: clee1

Depends on what you mean by “win”


121 posted on 02/28/2022 7:34:06 AM PST by Cronos ( One cannot desire freedom from the Cross, especially when one is especially chosen for the cross)
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To: BobL

We don’t need more troops. We have more experienced and more effective troops than everyone else.

In terms of effectiveness our only competition are the British.

In terms of ships - the USA has more aircraft carriers than the rest of the world’s navies COMBINED. If we take just the navy we can defeat the rest of the world’s navies combined without breaking a sweat.

In terms of planes, the USA has far more effective planes than the rest of the world combined.

And by combined I mean Russia + China + UK + france + everyone right down to Leichtenstein


122 posted on 02/28/2022 7:39:46 AM PST by Cronos ( One cannot desire freedom from the Cross, especially when one is especially chosen for the cross)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

“He’s removing the cabal NWO from the Ukraine.”

God I hope that’s what he’s doing.


123 posted on 02/28/2022 7:39:54 AM PST by Rennes Templar (Come back, President Trump.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

“Among other things, you have to charge the battery on those Javelins or whatever. No charge, no fire. No one told them. I guess they had so many dumped on them, it was not realistic to plug them all into the wall, and sit there and wait. “


The Javelin is as useful as a handheld tank round without an operational CLU.

“Training” is underrated and, yes, I too view this reporting as more accurate...right down to the ‘charging’ comment.


124 posted on 02/28/2022 7:43:36 AM PST by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: Cronos

Ok, thanks for conceding that our military is nowhere near as large as our LGBT spending would lead people to believe, per the Leftist talking point used throughout the Cold War.


125 posted on 02/28/2022 7:44:08 AM PST by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart, I just don't tell anyone.)
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To: mmichaels1970

No one I know worships Putin. I personally think Putin has permission from the NWO to attack Ukraine. The media faux outrage machine is a farce…


126 posted on 02/28/2022 7:44:24 AM PST by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: woodbutcher1963

Here is the latest Bald and Bankrupt video

Leaving Kyiv On A Refugee Train
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzBxFH_hEwA


127 posted on 02/28/2022 7:45:20 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Chainmail
"Gosh - another Russian cheerleader masquerading as a “conservative”. We done, Comrade."

For me, it's not a question of supporting Putin or this invasion, but of having my suspicions aroused by the over-the-top propaganda I'm seeing in support of the Ukrainians, which has included numerous proven cases of misrepresented or doctored photos and false narratives.

I've never seen the left so enthusiastic about any of our OWN war efforts, which they almost invariably oppose, but - just as with the Kurds a few years ago - we are being told that THIS fight defines "who we are" and anything less than total, unquestioning support is a betrayal of "our most fundamental values."

Suddenly, the left is cheering on "white nationalists," including civilians bearing the very arms that the left does not want US to have. Suddenly nationalism is a good thing, and the left are waving Ukrainian flags. The CIA has been messing around in Ukrainian politics for some years now - even helping install the previous regime - and who knows what the endgame is. I trust our own government no more than I trust Putin.

I feel that the Ukrainian fighters may end up being surrogates for the globalists, as the globalists - the banks, Soros, the Democrats, the media - are all lined up behind them. I'm afraid that we in the West have been moving in a direction not very different from Putin's Russia, and I find it hard to see this as a simple good vs evil scenario.
128 posted on 02/28/2022 7:46:21 AM PST by Steve_Seattle
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To: dfwgator; woodbutcher1963

The latest from ‘bald and bankrupt’, today:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzBxFH_hEwA


129 posted on 02/28/2022 7:46:37 AM PST by dynachrome ("I will not be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.")
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To: Mmogamer
So - somehow because we are surrounded by idiots, we are supposed to ignore Russian murderous aggression (and nuclear threats) - just because we are against Brandon, Turdeau, and a host of other perverts?

Your wife is right.

130 posted on 02/28/2022 7:46:37 AM PST by Chainmail (Frater magnus te spectat)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Me either.


131 posted on 02/28/2022 7:46:54 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Chainmail

LOL! Let’s just agree that breathlessly hyperventilating over Putin taking Ukraine and China taking Taiwan are symptoms of the root cause. The fall of the American Republic. Pax Americana is over. Similar to when Rome fell, the conflagration will affect us all. Get ready…


132 posted on 02/28/2022 7:48:13 AM PST by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Chainmail

No I’m simply saying that you’re simply listening to the same crowd say the same thing that you didn’t agree with 2 weeks ago and now you’re in full agreement with them I don’t know what’s going on over there all right Russia’s doing something they shouldn’t be doing what they’re doing it for a reason reason and we’re not being told exactly what the reason is reason is and you refuse to even consider anything other than it’s murderous Russian blah blah everybody it doesn’t agree with you is a Communist Russian supporter you may as well be calling me a nazi homophobic bigot because your buddies that you’re lined up with we’re doing that last week


133 posted on 02/28/2022 7:50:08 AM PST by Mmogamer (I refudiate the lamestream media, leftists and their prevaricutions.)
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To: Steve_Seattle
It is actually very simple: Russia just threw their massive forces against people who didn't do anything at all to them- then threatened us with nuclear attacks.

Ukraine and some of the people backing them are crooks and deviants but it's still quite clear that The Russians are evil and Ukraine should not be invaded.

Not all that hard, is it?

134 posted on 02/28/2022 7:50:22 AM PST by Chainmail (Frater magnus te spectat)
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To: dynachrome

And notice folks, these are what real refugees look like, women and children.


135 posted on 02/28/2022 7:52:22 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: dfwgator

Thanks Gator!

I watched four of five of his videos yesterday. He is very entertaining. He comes across as your typical “man on the street”.

Guys like him are another reason why the MSM are done and panicking.


136 posted on 02/28/2022 7:52:58 AM PST by woodbutcher1963
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To: Rennes Templar

Trust me that is what is happening. The news outlets are all NWO mouth pieces. Their job is to whip the public into a hysterical frenzy and from what I’ve seen on FR the past several days its working. We were at dinner with our best friends last night who are conservative and they were all worked up.


137 posted on 02/28/2022 7:53:31 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: woodbutcher1963

And he’s done a lot of similar videos in Russia, you grow to love the people, and really hate the governments.


138 posted on 02/28/2022 7:53:44 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

No Putin has Permission from Trump.


139 posted on 02/28/2022 7:55:24 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Jan_Sobieski
What you refuse to even entertain is that the US has been overrun by communists that have emasculated our military, opened our borders, fixed our elections, lgbtqi’ed our children, locked down our small businesses, and implemented medical tyranny? Who are the commie pinko fags now? The Pentagon! We’re supposed to send our children to fight 1 communist 10,000 miles away when there are 10,000 communists 1 mile away? You are simply ignorant…

Well said Jan_.

140 posted on 02/28/2022 7:56:18 AM PST by BlackbirdSST (Trump WON!!!)
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