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Space X Loses Dozens Of Satellites Destroyed By Solar Storm
BBC News via MSN ^ | 02/09/22

Posted on 02/09/2022 6:00:56 AM PST by Enlightened1

SpaceX has lost dozens of satellites after they were hit by a geomagnetic storm a day after launch, causing them to fall from orbit and burn up.

Such solar "storms" are caused by powerful explosions on the sun's surface, which spit out plasma and magnetic fields that can hit the Earth.

The company, owned by billionaire Elon Musk, said up to 40 of 49 satellites from last week's launch were hit.

They had been due to join its Starlink satellite internet project.

Starlink is Mr Musk's bid to provide high-speed internet using thousands of orbiting satellites. The system is relatively expensive, but can be used in places where wired connections cannot.

The latest 49 satellites were deployed about 210km (130 miles) above the Earth's surface. SpaceX said "each satellite achieved controlled flight" after being sent up on 3 February.

However, a day later, the geomagnetic storm hit the Earth. It is the same kind of mechanism that creates aurorae like the Northern Lights, but it can have dangerous effects too.

This storm warmed up the atmosphere and made it much more dense than expected.

"Onboard GPS suggests the escalation speed and severity of the storm caused atmospheric drag to increase up to 50% higher than during previous launches," SpaceX said.

SpaceX tried to put the satellites into a "safe mode", turning them to fly edge-on to minimise drag.

The drag was strong enough to stop the satellites ever getting out of that "safe mode" and back into the orbit they needed to reach to be stable. Instead, "up to 40" will fall back into the Earth's atmosphere and burn up.

Jacob Geer, the UK Space Agency's Head of Space Surveillance, said he does not expect "any part" of the satellites to hit the ground.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Health/Medicine; Miscellaneous; Science
KEYWORDS: destroyed; satellites; solarstorm; spacex
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1 posted on 02/09/2022 6:00:56 AM PST by Enlightened1
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To: Enlightened1
This storm warmed up the atmosphere and made it much more dense than expected.

Gee, imagine that..........................

2 posted on 02/09/2022 6:03:25 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: Enlightened1

Wow. We’ll see how they react. A learning lesson - although one might argue this aspect should have been better understood first. Easy to say...


3 posted on 02/09/2022 6:05:37 AM PST by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing of poor moral choices among everybody)
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To: Enlightened1
This storm warmed up the atmosphere and made it much more dense than expected.

I am unclear on the physics of this. I thought warming a gas would make it less dense, not more.

4 posted on 02/09/2022 6:06:02 AM PST by Blennos ( )
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To: Blennos

This storm warmed up the atmosphere and made it much more dense than expected.
I am unclear on the physics of this. I thought warming a gas would make it less dense, not more.

It does perfectly explain the sun’s atmospheric warming effect, now called “Global Warming”


5 posted on 02/09/2022 6:12:12 AM PST by READINABLUESTATE ( ‘When tyranny becomes law, resistance becomes duty.’)
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To: Blennos
"I am unclear on the physics of this. I thought warming a gas would make it less dense, not more."

If the gas is contained, warming the gas makes it more dense. If it the gas is uncontained, warming the gas makes it temporarily more dense in that area until it's had time to disperse (release the pressure) at which point it'll be less dense than cooler gas.

If it is in a partial container that prevents escape from the top but allows escape from the bottom (like a hot air balloon) then the end result is the air that stays inside the container is hotter and less dense than the cool air outside the container (why a hot air balloon rises). But that's only because escape is controlled by direction (escape through only the bottom) to allow the pressure to release but keep the warmest air (prone to be less dense if it's allowed to spread) inside the balloon.

6 posted on 02/09/2022 6:26:15 AM PST by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: Enlightened1

HONEY_I_DESTROYED_THE_SATELLITE_CONSTELLATION_PING


7 posted on 02/09/2022 6:28:57 AM PST by The Duke (Search for 'Sydney Ducks' and understand what is needed.)
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To: Enlightened1

This storm warmed up the atmosphere and made it much more dense

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And all balloons fell to the ground ?

Cuz hot air is now more, not less, dense ?


8 posted on 02/09/2022 6:32:05 AM PST by cuz1961 (USCGR Veteran )
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To: Tell It Right
If the gas is contained, warming the gas makes it more dense. If it the gas is uncontained, warming the gas makes it temporarily more dense in that area until it's had time to disperse (release the pressure) at which point it'll be less dense than cooler gas.

I understand this, but atmospheric gases are ultimately not contained. My guess. The particles of the solar storm itself must have increased the gaseous density impinging on the satellites, thus increasing drag. Like being hit with a blast of frozen rain while walking or driving. You can definitely feel the pressure.

9 posted on 02/09/2022 6:36:10 AM PST by Blennos ( )
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To: Tell It Right

If the gas is contained, warming the gas makes it more dense.

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dense
/dens/
Learn to pronounce
adjective
1.
closely compacted in substance

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Heating gas particles makes them expand not compact.

This must be more modern education I don’t understand.


10 posted on 02/09/2022 6:38:59 AM PST by cuz1961 (USCGR Veteran )
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To: Blennos

Warming causes it to expand so there’s more drag at higher altitude.


11 posted on 02/09/2022 6:40:14 AM PST by 6ppc (Democrats would have to climb Everest to reach the level of "scum of the earth")
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To: Enlightened1

Or the CCP took them out because they don’t want to lose their firewall?


12 posted on 02/09/2022 6:47:02 AM PST by big bad easter bunny
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To: cuz1961

I agree that heating a gas makes it expand, but that effect isn’t instantaneous. The reason heated gas expands is because pressure is built up at that moment, it’s that pressure that causes the expansion. During the brief period between heating the gas and expansion there is pressure that can be a serious issue if we’re talking about rapid heating of the gas.


13 posted on 02/09/2022 6:47:39 AM PST by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: Blennos

Expansion because of warming. So more atmo at that altitude to create drag.

It’s why tires pressure should usually be measured cold (ambient).


14 posted on 02/09/2022 6:48:10 AM PST by AFreeBird
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To: Enlightened1

Musk has tons more ,LOL


15 posted on 02/09/2022 6:51:24 AM PST by butlerweave
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To: Enlightened1

I am sorry to read about the loss...but....this should have been anticipated. Solar storms happen.


16 posted on 02/09/2022 6:56:59 AM PST by wintertime ( Behind every government school teacher stand armed police.( Real bullets in those guns on the hip!))
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To: Red Badger

Yes, caught that as well. The root of climate change, made bare and man has had nothing to do with it.


17 posted on 02/09/2022 6:57:39 AM PST by V K Lee (Our CONSTITUTION. Written with DIVINE assistence by very wise men. A document unlike any other.)
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To: Blennos

I believe the solar storm warmed the atmosphere, causing it to expand. This increased the density - and thus the drag - at higher altitudes, thereby causing orbital decay to be more rapid.


18 posted on 02/09/2022 6:57:42 AM PST by PersonOfNo Consequence
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To: cuz1961
I believe the effect is that when the upper atmosphere is warmed by increased energy from the sun it expands. That means it moves up.

I think the wording of the article is a little misleading (big surprise these days). The warming effect makes the gases of the atmosphere less dense because they expand - more energy causing the atoms and molecules to bounce around more.

That expansion means the upper edges of the atmosphere increase in altitude. Or, at a given altitude - say the initial orbit of the satellites - there are more gasses that have come up and are inducing drag.

Apparently enough extra drag the ion thrusters on the satellites will not be able to overcome it.

19 posted on 02/09/2022 7:03:23 AM PST by ThunderSleeps (Vaccine mandates: they are not about health, they are about obedience.)
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To: Enlightened1

Wow. Lots of freepers think they are entitled to be intelligent. The story makes perfect sense, unless you are at a sixth grade science level.


20 posted on 02/09/2022 7:04:14 AM PST by Born to Conserve
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