[ClearCase_guy]

I think this is more complicated than some may think.

OK, some people feel entitled and they just want “stuff” and don’t feel that they need to work for it. That’s a problem.

But some people have worked hard, followed all the rules, and done everything right. And they lose their job to H1-B immigrants who will work cheap. Americans in that situation feel that their job has let them down.

Some companies complain that they can’t hire workers. Well, the problem there is that they don’t pay enough. The work may end up going offshore, but it doesn’t have to — offer a decent wage.

Plenty of workplaces are consumed by political correctness, diversity police, COVID craziness and other toxic policies. A lot of workers don’t want to put up with that crap any more.

A lot of people in management do not respect their workers. They don’t listen. They won’t adopt new ideas. It can be a frustrating environment and some of the best workers are the first to say “I don’t have to put up with this crap”.

I say that big changes are needed in how America views “work”.

Of course, another view is that American citizens are really just wage slaves and they need to do as they are told, they need to accept depressing careers and they need to accept whatever wages their boss chooses to toss at them, and if the worker doesn’t like it, then he and his family can starve in an alley. Who cares about selfish workers? The only thing that ever matters is the bottomline of the business.

I think a fair number of Conservative/Libertarian/Rightwing people place too much value on “business” and too little value on “workers”. HINT: If elections still mean anything at all, the voters (”workers”) may be receptive to the party that tries to help the “workers”.

[Alberta's Child]

I agree with a lot of your points, but from what I’ve seen since the early days of “Occupy Wall Street” I’d say very, very few of these young people were employable in any field where they’d be competing with H-1B visa workers. In fact, the common theme for a lot of these people is that they had useless college degrees — and carrying enormous college debts from them. None of these people were capable of working in a job that would pay them sufficiently to cover the cost of that debt.

This is one of the dirty little secrets about foreign-born workers in so many professional fields. One of the reasons they work for so much less pay than their American counterparts is that they don’t have to cover the huge cost of a U.S. college education that simply isn’t worth what was paid for it.

[reg45]

The Democrats, formerly known as the party of the working class, has become the party of the shirking class.

[joe fonebone]

Time for true life stories..
I am very intellegent. I look at my job, and figure out a way to do it quicker and more accurately.
I do 8 hours of work in 4 hours.
Am I congratulated? No.
Do I get raises? No.
What I get is more work dumped on me, while making the same as the other people who’s work I am now doing.
Soon, I am sitting in my cubicle busting my butt to keep up, while my co-workers are mingling around, chatting and laughing.
I ask for a raise, and carefully explain what is going on and why I deserve more money.
I am told I am lucky to have a job.
I find another job.
Now, all of a sudden, they are offering me the moon to stay.
Screw that!!!!

The time to take care of a good employee is while they are still working for you, not after they have left.
And the day they give you notice is not the day they left. They left weeks or months ago, when they started looking for another job.

[Retrofitted]

This study from MIT backs you up easily.https://sloanreview.mit.edu/article/toxic-culture-is-driving-the-great-resignation/) and I agree with you 100%. What I’m seeing and hearing, while anecdotal, surely, backs you up. People are fed up with being treat badly by managers who should know better.

[brianr10]

My nephew’s son is a case in point. He has a chemistry degree from SUNY Alfred. He works as a truck driver for a HVAC contractor in Buffalo. He was offered another job, developing some computer system for the company that could have, in everyone’s opinion, led to bigger and better things, but he turned it down. He likes being a truck driver and delivering HVAC parts to job sites. He recently moved in with another guy who quit a great cybersecurity job in California. Too much pressure, and he was always afraid of making a mistake. The first kid has a brother finishing up at SUNY Binghamton, who extremely focused, and a whiz at math and physics. He wants to work in operations management or IE at Amazon.

[griswold3]

Those undervalued workers with skill do have another option…Start their own business. “Find a need and fill it!” Same as it ever was.