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Lessons From An Underground Economy (Venezuela Prepper Advice))
Zubu Brothers ^ | 12-27-2021 | J.G.Martinez via The Organic Prepper blog,

Posted on 12/27/2021 8:06:19 PM PST by blam

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To: G Larry
 
 
There are time honored methods to give bureaucrats incentive to "get out of the way" of commerce - plata o plomo.
 
 

21 posted on 12/27/2021 10:08:20 PM PST by lapsus calami (What's that stink? Code Pink ! ! And their buddy Murtha, too!)
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To: blam

Strange, he didn’t list diversity trainers or CRT hiring consultants in his list.....


22 posted on 12/27/2021 10:16:45 PM PST by PGR88
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To: StolarStorm

another person reminded me about coffee

which is great

but i guess i didn’t consider it a smaller item but you can fit decent amounts of cans and bags in a relatively small footprint on shelves.


23 posted on 12/27/2021 10:18:44 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Coffee is on my shopping list as well. I have #10 cans of freeze dried stuff, but the bulk of my current storage is just normal canned goods. Also have a lot of peanut butter (cheap and dense). Think that lasts for a decent amount of time. It may not taste good after a year but would still be a dense source of proteins and calories. Prior to moving I did have a years worth of food, but had to chunk most of it. I miss those super pails.


24 posted on 12/27/2021 10:36:12 PM PST by StolarStorm
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To: StolarStorm

Get your own freeze dryer. When we have canned goods about to expire, we freeze dry them too.


25 posted on 12/27/2021 10:49:00 PM PST by GreyHoundSailor (LGBTQ - Let's Get Brandon To Quit)
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To: StolarStorm

A wide selection of “Barter” and a
Good skill set.
.
Will be OKAY.


26 posted on 12/27/2021 10:49:04 PM PST by Big Red Badger (Make His Paths Straight!)
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To: blam
Bump for reference.

Yes, some repair skills like welding, plumbing and electrician work are probably real potential underground economy money makers. Also really advanced first aid skills will be important.

I don't see the US descending into chaos very quickly. Yes, I see certain lawless cities or portions of cities becoming “no-go” zones. However, a massive statewide economic breakdown would take many months to a couple years and allow folks to stock up on things (although they might be expensive.)

There was a prepper who survived the Bosnia civil war and claimed that the absolutely best trade good/skills were,

(1) Medical skills, medical drugs and first aid supplies

(2) Charged batteries were another supper needed trade good.

(3) Ammunition and firearms were supper tradable items. A good skill would be casting lead bullets and being able to reload ammo. There ways to create primers from volatile chemicals and recycled primer cups.

(4) Anything that was consumable alcohol (wine, beer, distilled spirits)

(5) Safe water and food (it is always good to have a means of either boiling or chlorinating water

Also there are stories from the siege of St. Petersburg/Leningrad during WW2 on what people need to survive for extended periods of time.

27 posted on 12/28/2021 1:48:42 AM PST by Robert357
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To: Steely Tom

Even though the article says, (The government has seized the right to own foreign currency), I read an article that was a transcribed interview with a Venezuelan who had just come to the US and he said things got better when they got a hold of and started using US dollars.


28 posted on 12/28/2021 4:37:05 AM PST by Pollard (PureBlood -- youtube.com/watch?v=VXm0fkDituE)
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To: blam; metmom

“The prepper needs to not only be prepared for disaster, but prepared for this form of black market as well.”

I didn’t choose Beau as my ‘Apocalypse Partner’ for no reason!

Between the two of us, we’ve got the skills we need to get through just about anything.

Not that I’m asking Mother Government to continue the beatings...


29 posted on 12/28/2021 6:19:10 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: metmom

I guess being a “pest control” dude or “Hot dog Stand” guy might not be such a bad thing :)


30 posted on 12/28/2021 6:20:59 AM PST by Roman_War_Criminal (Jesus + Something = Nothing ; Jesus + Nothing = Everything )
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To: blam

Pre-1965 dimes, quarters and half dollars. Avoid silver dollars, the alloy is a bit different. Silver fractionals work well too but US coins are easily recognizable.

1/10 oz gold fractional are good for large purchases but command too high a premium today.

Just my two cents, pun unavoidable.


31 posted on 12/28/2021 6:35:53 AM PST by muir_redwoods (Freedom isn't free, liberty isn't liberal and you'll never find anything Right on the Left)
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"Pre-1965 dimes, quarters and half dollars. Avoid silver dollars, the alloy is a bit different. Silver fractionals work well too but US coins are easily recognizable."

This is my choice too and I think the best one.

32 posted on 12/28/2021 6:59:05 AM PST by blam
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To: blam

“Soylent Green”,
“The Road” and
“Mad Max” are compelling
Movies But I’ve gotten a
Bit Slower lately.


33 posted on 12/28/2021 7:51:48 AM PST by Big Red Badger (Make His Paths Straight!)
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To: blam; metmom; 4everontheRight; 4Liberty; 5thGenTexan; 45semi; 101stAirborneVet; 300winmag; ...
Prepper Ping - Surviving After an Economic Collapse - Understanding the Underground Economy
A Lesson from Venezuela on survival skills
Social Networking, Skills, Tools, and Barter in order to survive

" How is it possible to survive a nation with inflation rates of 20%/month and 1700%/year? The answer?
The underground economy.
This is the level of hyperinflation we have found ourselves with here in Venezuela, and considering the spread of inflation worldwide,
it would be well worth the prepper’s time to glean what we can learn here."

"Virtually everything you read dictates inflation on this scale necessitates civil war.
Yet Venezuela hasn’t seen this. Why not?
Why are the streets not being taken by armed civilians? "

Read the full article and he posted comments for more information, and/or go to the OP source.
Then, be thankful for our Constitution and the Bill of Rights.

34 posted on 12/28/2021 8:23:33 AM PST by Tilted Irish Kilt
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To: Steely Tom
Renfrew ~ As with most of the Caribbean the US dollar is the main currency people use.

Steely Tom ~ Thanks for that. I should have known; the dollar is the world's "reserve currency."

What gets used when (not if, under this cabal in power) the dollar becomes worthless?

35 posted on 12/28/2021 8:47:19 AM PST by null and void (Unvaccinated=control group, vaccinated=controlLED group...)
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To: blam
Pre-Rosevelt dimes, pre-Washinton quarters, pre-Kennedy half dollars.

Showing up with rolls of silver advertises that you have a stockpile to be robbed.

Showing up with a small handful of old coins that your mother or grandmother left you, and saying as much with tears in your eyes, doesn't make you much of a target.

36 posted on 12/28/2021 9:03:03 AM PST by null and void (Unvaccinated=control group, vaccinated=controlLED group...)
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To: G Larry

Actually, there are a lot of unlicensed, non-permitted businesses in the US. Including food vendors. The fact that it’s illegal doesn’t stop it.

In some cities, there’s a whole network of food smugglers, who deliver home-made food from unlicensed kitchens, for a price. Sometimes one of them will use the money they make to eventually get a licensed food truck and go legit, but a lot of them just focus on staying under the radar and try not to get caught.


37 posted on 12/28/2021 9:47:36 AM PST by Ellendra (A single lie on our side does more damage than a thousand lies on their side.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Sewing needles are a good one to stock up on. You can fit hundreds of them into a pill bottle, but they’re essential for both clothing repair and for stitching closed wounds.


38 posted on 12/28/2021 9:50:59 AM PST by Ellendra (A single lie on our side does more damage than a thousand lies on their side.)
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To: null and void

Wedding bands are another method. Get plain gold bands, preferably in your size, as close to spot-price as you can find. If people see you pull the wedding ring off your finger and use it to barter with, you look like just another desperate person. Nobody needs to know you’ve got 3 more in your pocket.


39 posted on 12/28/2021 9:56:53 AM PST by Ellendra (A single lie on our side does more damage than a thousand lies on their side.)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

Until the smash and grabs start hitting hot dog stands. Easy target at the window. Closed in with one or two doors. Food and cash for the taking. Drive the entire business away and sell it.


40 posted on 12/28/2021 10:19:53 AM PST by bgill (Which came first, the vax or the virus?)
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