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Iowa Student Asks Pence Who Told Him To ‘Buck Trump’ And Certify 2020 Election
CONSERVATIVE BRIEF ^ | November 5, 2021 | Martin Walsh

Posted on 11/07/2021 4:58:39 AM PST by Hostage

Former Vice President Mike Pence has spoken in defense of his role in certifying the presidential election of Joe Biden.

An Iowa student asked Pence why he “bucked Trump” and certified the 2020 election results on January 6th.

“On January 5th, you were convinced that the election was correctly stolen,” the student named Jared said. “You, Trump, Peter Navarro, John Eastman, and others had a plan on the morning of the 6th to send the certification back to the states. What is the name of the person who convinced you to buck President Trump’s plan and certify the votes?”

Pence named one of the nation’s founders, the fourth President of the United States James Madison, who many say is the “father of the Constitution,” as that person.

“The Constitution is very clear that elections are to be governed at the state level. The Founders actually made that decision at the Constitutional Convention. And the only role of the federal government was to open and count the electoral votes that were sent by the states,” he said.

“I understand the disappointment in the election,” the former vice president said. “You might remember I was on the ballot. But you’ve got to be willing to do your duty. And the time may come that some of you are in that position, or one like it. And I just have a feeling based on the shining faces I’m seeing around here you’re going to be men and women who do your duty in that time as well.”

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KEYWORDS: jan6; judaspence; pence
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What Judas Pence is not telling people is that delegations of State legislatures wrote him to defer their state's Electoral votes until their investigations were complete.

Pence ignored State legislative requests to delay the counting of their Electors who were pushed by Governors not empowered under Article II of the Constitution.

Further, Pence is not transparent as he hides the fact that his staff, many who accompanied him from Indiana, were Never-Trumpers.

Pence's Chief of Staff Marc Short, a rabid Never-Trumper, wrote the January 6 letter for Pence. Short, a typical unskilled DC trough feeder, learned to peddle his connections, finding warm greetings from the Anti-Trump billionaire Koch Brothers who profited from cross-border elicit traffic. Short was involved in this while employed under Pence in DC.

1 posted on 11/07/2021 4:58:39 AM PST by Hostage
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To: Hostage

Say it, Hostage!
Keep telling them!


2 posted on 11/07/2021 5:04:34 AM PST by Guenevere (When the foundations are being destroyed what can the righteous do t)
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Bkmk.


3 posted on 11/07/2021 5:06:38 AM PST by Jane Long (What we were told was a “conspiracy theory” in 2020 is now fact. 🙏🏻 Ps 33:12 )
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To: Hostage
"And the time may come that some of you are in that position, or one like it. And I just have a feeling based on the shining faces I’m seeing around here you’re going to be men and women who do your duty in that time as well.”

What an idiot.

First, I think Pence could have, and should have, sent the votes back to the states for re-certification. Second, He decided not to, and some people think he was correct in this. That's fine. I can recognize legitimate differences of opinion on such a point.

What I cannot recognize is the idea that if the left were ever in such a situation, that they might debate, disagree, and agonize over the "right thing to do". No. That's not the Left. They would seize power. Any student of history can say that the Left would NEVER do what Pence did. The "shining faces" Pence references in the quote would only do their duty to The Party and they would crush all opposition without any concern for legalities.

4 posted on 11/07/2021 5:07:39 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Alec Baldwin has killed more people than the Jan 6 protesters. And he will serve less jail time.)
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To: Hostage

I call B/S on Pence. Lets Go Pence.


5 posted on 11/07/2021 5:08:39 AM PST by duckman ( Not tired of winning!)
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To: Hostage

The Big Steal exposed so many things!


6 posted on 11/07/2021 5:12:10 AM PST by VRW Conspirator (Socialism should more accurately be called Sociopathism)
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To: Hostage

I love it


7 posted on 11/07/2021 5:22:33 AM PST by spacejunkie2001
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To: Hostage

...”And I just have a feeling based on the shining faces I’m seeing around here you’re going to be men and women who do your duty in that time as well.”>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Spoken like the true back stabber he is. Mike Pence will never be President of the United States. Look at what Pence’s betrayal has done to America....its horrible what Pence has put America through under the criminally elected Biden administration. pence deserves great public ridicule for what he did in not delaying certification of the vote.


8 posted on 11/07/2021 5:23:21 AM PST by Candor7 ((Obama Fascism:http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: Hostage

Name one state that didn’t follow that state’s legal procedure to certify their electoral ballots.

Name one state where the legislature went into session and formally voted to rescind that state’s certification of electoral ballots.

Pence is correct. The U.S. Constitution gives the VP/Senate President only one power when it comes to electoral ballots. The Constitution says the VP opens the envelopes containing the ballots and hands them to ‘tellers’ to count (tellers being two members each of the House and Senate). That’s it. Not a single word about the VP rejecting ballots or doing anything else with the ballots.

The power to reject ballots once they reach Congress lies with Congress. The Constitution says Congress as a whole can vote to reject a ballot. That’s the only way electoral ballots get rejected.

The Federalist Society has a motto that says in part to do ‘what the law says, not what it should say’. In this case Pence is correct about the duties of the VP as far as electoral ballots. If anyone sees anything in the Constitution that says otherwise, please cut and paste and post here on FR.


9 posted on 11/07/2021 5:24:56 AM PST by Roadrunner383
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To: Hostage

Pence is dead in the water.....too many Trump supporters


10 posted on 11/07/2021 5:26:51 AM PST by magyars4 (To sin by silence when they should protest makes cowards of men!)
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“The Constitution is very clear that elections are to be governed at the state level.

Just to set the record straight Judas Pence, the constitution is far more specific than just governed at the state level. It is the state legislature which controls elections.

The following Duckduckgo search results page proves that you ignored requests from state legislators requests to send the votes back to the states:

Did any state legislatures request Pence send there electors back for more review in the 2020 election

Thus Judas Pence, you are historically, and constitutionally incorrect and as a result may have single-handedly destroyed this nation. Quit patting yourself on the back along with democrats who just love RINOs like yourself.

11 posted on 11/07/2021 5:31:04 AM PST by Robert DeLong
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To: Hostage

Pence is a weasel.


12 posted on 11/07/2021 5:33:03 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: Hostage

Bookmark


13 posted on 11/07/2021 5:34:23 AM PST by JubJub
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To: Hostage

Suppose the VP could invalidated certain votes.
How do you think that would play out if Kamala Harris was VP?
IOW, this plan simply states that the VP would choose the next President.
You like that idea?


14 posted on 11/07/2021 5:35:04 AM PST by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: Hostage

Outrageous, look at all the damage done so far because of this domestic enemy occupation and we have THREE possibly even SEVEN more years of this crap.


15 posted on 11/07/2021 5:37:24 AM PST by GrandJediMasterYoda (As long as Hillary Clinton remains free equal justice under the law will never exist in the USA)
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To: ClearCase_guy
What I cannot recognize is the idea that if the left were ever in such a situation, that they might debate, disagree, and agonize over the "right thing to do". No. That's not the Left. They would seize power. Any student of history can say that the Left would NEVER do what Pence did. The "shining faces" Pence references in the quote would only do their duty to The Party and they would crush all opposition without any concern for legalities.

This.

16 posted on 11/07/2021 5:39:43 AM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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What is the name of the person who convinced you to buck President Trump’s plan and certify the votes?”

Not a good question.

Better question would be:

WHY did you buck President Trump’s plan and certify the votes?”

Although Pence would have given a mealy-mouthed answer to that too. He needs to go back to his farm and disappear.

17 posted on 11/07/2021 5:40:02 AM PST by Bon of Babble (Rigged Elections have Consequences)
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To: Roadrunner383
Pence is correct.

No he is not.

18 posted on 11/07/2021 5:40:42 AM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DugwayDuke
Suppose the VP could invalidated certain votes.

Certain votes? Throw the entire thing out until the corrupt parts are dealt with.

IOW, this plan simply states that the VP would choose the next President.

No it doesn't. It says the "President of the Senate" will do his d@mn job and refuse to certify a clearly fraudulent election.

19 posted on 11/07/2021 5:42:49 AM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Hostage

Pence is oblivious to the reality that he is political dead man walking and cannot win any elected office.


20 posted on 11/07/2021 5:42:52 AM PST by allendale
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