Posted on 10/28/2021 8:31:54 AM PDT by servo1969
I thought I read here a few days ago that Alec’s father was a weapons instructor at some high school.
Arrest the Gun, lock it up and throw away the key!
In the world of firearms safety, when you hold a gun, you have absolutely no right to rely on anyone but yourself, and you have no right to take anything you’ve been told at face value. That’s the practice in the military and civilian law enforcement. With a single action revolver, you can see if there’s a case in the chamber by looking at it from the side, but you can’t tell if it’s a live round, an expended cartridge, a blank or a dummy round. That requires pulling the hammer to half cock, opening the loading gate, and inverting the gun so the case can slide out or pushing it out with the ejector rod. It’s really much easier than it sounds when it can be demonstrated. My preschool children can do it.
He fired a revolver without checking to see if it was loaded....which is pretty damn easy to check with a revolver.
He must be so pissed at himself...talk about something you can’t take back
So a REAL gun, not a prop gun.
I generally open the gate pull the hammer to the second click and spin the cylinder watching each chamber for rounds
If you look at the front of the cylinder while spinning it you can see if the cartridges are crimped or have wads. Blanks are easily recognizable from live rounds because you can see the bullets on live ammo.
So when does the gun go on trial?
My kids did that at an incredibly young age too.
one problem with test firing into the ground in a building is that it would chew up the flooring if done indoors with live ammo, and it would chew up production time if the AD and actor each need to do it outdoors. of course, that is not to say that it should not always be done in any case.
I agree with your point and am a member of the NRA and have participated in safety courses. I believe that the training that the the NRA provides is very helpful. But revolvers are the easiest guns to determine whether they are loaded or not. You don't need a "safety course" to figure it out. Any amount of basic familiarity with the gun in question is all that people who are not complete idiots actually need.
This was criminal negligence on Baldwin's part especially in his role as the producer that was onscene and in charge of the entire fiasco where people walked off the job after two “accidental discharges” the day before. If Baldwin does not have to answer for this in court then we will know New Mexico's justice system is even more screwed up than we thought that it was. Given his political leanings either the governor of New Mexico or President Biden will likely intercede at some point on his behalf if a judge or jury actually gives him prison time of more than a month or two.
Did he take the cannoli?
Secondly, a gun CAN go off without hitting the trigger. It's caused by a mechanical defect, and is called an “accidental discharge” rather than a “negligent discharge”. Anyone who knows their salt about guns is aware of that. That's why you don't point a gun at a person, trigger or not.
Accidental discharge An accidental discharge (AD) occurs when there is a mechanical failure of the firearm. This can include things like firearms that do not have mechanisms to render them drop safe falling a sufficient distance,[1] a firing pin stuck forward,[2] a sear failing,[3] or rounds heating sufficiently to spontaneously ignite in the chamber (as may happen in a closed bolt machine gun).[4]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unintentional_discharge#Accidental_discharge
Please get your facts straight.
“There is no way to fire it accidentally.”
That is an incredibly stupid statement.
The Pietta is a faithful copy of the Colt Single Action Army with the firing pin on the hammer. On one of these, if your finger slips while cocking it, you can get an accidental discharge. Some people actually fire the SAA that way - its called “slipping the hammer.”
.45 long colt is not exactly a common round either. Not a round that you would just have lying around. Why were live rounds anywhere near the set and how did they get there?
When I was growing up, you probably could’ve found a loose .22lr round rolling around the floorboard of my truck, perhaps even a shotgun shell, but a 45 long colt? Not a round that is in everyones pocket that could then mistakenly be put on a table and loaded by an inexperienced set worker.
Oh, and I have a pietta black powder .45, and that trigger is light. Super nice if anyone is in to black powder. And single action is a cock the hammer to fire. But anyone handling a firearm should assume the sear could fail at any time. Thus hammer back is certainly to the point where you never let that barrel pass by anyone, finger on the trigger or not.
You are correct. And to add to that, the safety is a quarter stop. Meaning to put it on safety, you have to hold the hammer, pull the trigger, and let the hammer down slowly. There are many ways to accidentally fire a single action revolver. Not that I believe it was an accident neccessarily
Still incompetence.
true....I think his point is that it wasn’t an “accident” in that it happened without user error. he was either handed the pistol with the hammer cocked, or he cocked the hammer himself....and the claim is he was practicing cross-drawing from the holster-—with the hammer already cocked?!
pure idiocy. he belongs in jail. anyone of us would have ben arrested by now.
Clayton Moore wrote in his autobiography about how hard they tried to get the fight scenes in The Lone Ranger in one take, so they wouldn't have to replace all the broken furniture and props.
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