Posted on 10/24/2021 8:49:10 AM PDT by SamAdams76
I can retire but I'm still too young to retire. Still 8 years away from FRA on Social Security, still months away from being able to tap into my 401k without penalty. But all my retirement planning has centered around retiring in my mid 60s - not the young age of 59!
So still got 5-10 years in the tank so far as my career is concerned. I'm at the top of my game and at my top earning potential. So I'd hate to give up over a million dollars in future earnings all because of some silly government mandate for a vaccine that I absolutely do not need and do not believe in.
So I'm asking for Freeper help in contructing a letter asking for an exemption to this absolutely insane and unwarranted mandate.
According to the edict put out by my company, all employees must be vaccinated by mid-December or face termination of employment. There are two possible paths for exemption: Medical and Religious.
A medical exemption is out of the question because I have been in perfect health my entire life. Not even a prescription other than a 2-week antibiotic I was given for a sinus infection back in the 1990s. Decades before COVID, I was taking vitamins C, D3 and zinc daily. For the past 20 years, I've been eating almost nothing but natural foods, recently adding raw honeycomb to my diet (to put in my whole-fat yogurt).
Over 30 years at this company and not a single sick day! I have probably the most perfect immune system one could want for. So why would I want to take a vaccine that I don't need and that might compromise that immune system?
I respect the decisions of those who decided to get the vaccines, everybody's situation is different, but I feel that I do not need it for myself and that it could only do me harm.
So my only option here is to seek a religious exemption.
Now I've been a lifelong Christian but I wish I could say I'm a perfect Christian, going to church every Sunday and Bible Study on Wednesday nights. But I skip church way more than I go to it. Mainly because I see the clergy as flawed human beings like myself. For example, during this pandemic, they have had a mask mandate at the church my wife and I belong to and the pastor himself has encouraged his congregation to take the vaccine. So cannot abide by that and cannot ask my pastor to sponsor me in my religious exemption request.
But that is the only avenue I have and I owe the Human Resources a letter stating my desire for a religious exemption. Otherwise, I need to either get the vaccine or face termination of employment less than two months from now. Unless I can obtain an exemption on religious grounds.
I only have one shot at this and so I need to get my ducks in a row. I don't want to be disingenuous. I don't want to cut and paste conspiracy stuff from the Internet. I don't want to pretend to be something I am not. However, I believe there are reasonable objections for even a semi-practicing Christian such as mywelf to make a good case for being exempted from these "vaccinations."
Such as fetus cells being used in either the production or development of these vaccines (my wife and I are ardently pro-Life). But I'm hearing this line of argument could potentially be challenged by HR as many other over the counter medications like cough medicine and Tylenol have fetal cells. Both of which I have taken in the past but certainly not on even a regular basis. In fact, it's been at least a decade since I took either.
So I'm looking for a cogent argument against this vaccine that will pass muster with my HR and Legal Department - on religious grounds. As I'm sure they will need to justify their exemption to the jackboot government.
Now I'm not simply an employee at this company but at the executive level. So I need to come at this from the angle of supporting the company's policies overall while seeking an exemption for myself. A bit of an awkward situation.
I plan to take the tack of not outright refusing to take a vaccine but simply not taking it at this time until certain concerns of mine are resolved. Such as waiting for more time to pass to gauge the long-term effect, waiting for a vaccine that did not have fetal cells in either its development or its production, or until such time my personal medical situation warrants it.
Anyway, I know there are some great minds on Free Republic so would like to pick your brains on this. That said, I also know I'm opening myself up here to inane and insane comments from other Freepers. Which is all fine with me. Just looking for some input and I feel that other Freepers are or will be soon in the same type of situation I find myself in.
Lastly, my company is between a rock and a hard place. They never wanted to mandate their employees but their hand is forced because 40% of our revenues derive from public sector contracts - such as military, government agencies and schools.
My goal here is to get an exemption so that my company can say they are in compliance. Otherwise, it's time to get out of the rat race and spend the rest of my life reading books and taking nature walks - which I guess I'll be okay with - but I'm sure I'll have regrets later.
What do you do for work? Is it something that you can do from home full time?
If so, you are in the same boat as me. When and if my company give this ridiculous edict, I will either work as a contractor on a 1099 or I will be setting up a LLC as a single member and contract out to my old company.
My boss has no problems with me doing this. The only thing is I will responsible for all the benefits: health, dental, Long term disability, etc...
Ask your boss/HR to show you where, in your insurance (health/workman’s comp) coverage it shows what care and compensation will be provided, should you suffer any adverse effects from their required shots.
Also, can they guarantee they are not exposing you to any other communicable diseases, from other employees? (ex: TB, regular flu, common cold, etc.)
Excellent, read just a bit of them. Make them review the forms and personally sign them first so that there is a written legal record for when problems with the vaccines arise. I bet that employers and schools start backing off demanding that peop,people, be vzxxed against their will if they see that they have to sign something g first.
PS...
You don’t have to justify your Christian practices to the company. None of their business. And why worry about being disingenuous. No moral problems lying to the people who seek to destroy you.
They don’t offer you the option of being tested weekly?
Sorry, one more. Just posting the description to the form for employers here for others to see
Employer Disclosure Form for COVID-19 Injections
“This is a form every employee who is faced with this situation needs to submit to the authorized officer of their company. It is requires them to respond to your questions (already on the form for you), provides you with requirements by the FDA, makes them review the ways they are breaking the law or ethical principles related to human experimentation and choice, and holds them 100% financially responsible, requiring a signature.”
My superiors stopped giving me grief about it when I gave my canned explanation to them:
”I don’t treat all employees the same. So what? I make exceptions for exceptional people.”
You’re playing it correctly!
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My Full retirement And last workday was June 1st of
This year.
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I Packed my Junk,
Left SoCal for Arizona.
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I’ll thank the Lord as it
Was Timing that brought this about Not some
Communist Mandate.
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I like this.
“The only thing is I will responsible for all the benefits: health, dental, Long term disability, etc...”
I am 59, my wife is 60. Our health insurance as self employed runs just shy of $2000 per month and that is with a $8750 deductible each...yes each. No R/X is covered until we meet the deductible.
At age 63-44 it goes up to $3200 month. Almost $40,000 per year. That is no dental, disability, life etc either.
Before you jump into the deep end of the pond make sure you know exactly what your expenses will be as a sub contractor
I retired at 34 to raise my daughter.
I drive for uber now and had to reduce my costs.
You know my story. I’m from Newtown.
Don’t be afraid of a future of freedom and dignity.
Any attempt to comply is because of our love of money and fear of having less stuff than we do now.
Freepmail me, or call me if you wanna talk.
In addition to the other suggestions, see if your company allows for penalty-free withdrawals from your 401(k) on or after the age of 55 at the time of separation. Some companies allow this.
Government-by-decree is how it works. There are no laws or even a definitive executive order to make this legitimate. Only a "policy statement" from an anonymous Federal bureaucrat is needed.
Most Religious exemptions will be denied.
Most Medical exemptions will be denied.
The few exemptions granted will be temporary and conditional on onerous and expensive testing requirements. Companies have already announced large health insurance surcharges that will be imposed on staff who are not vaccinated, or whose other family members are not vaccinated.
The Courts have been of no help in this matter. They will continue to do nothing.
Is it companies with more than 100 employees>.
At this moment, it is all companies with more than 100 employees - and all companies, regardless of size, doing business with the Federal Government through the GSA bidding process.
I have small business clients who have been directly affected. They will comply ("all staff must be vaccinated") or they will be forced to shut down. They are all going to comply.
I know of some large businesses that have backed away from the mandates. This is a temporary retreat due to critical staff shortages. The "mandates" will be applied for all new hires. They will come back later for existing staff members.
All of this is subject to change at the whims of the Federal bureaucracy. That is how it works.
Right. My brother-in-law was fired a week before he was going to retire. No warning, no bennies. I would have taken the company to court.
Good post.
Tell them you got vaccinated. When they ask for the proof, refuse but remind them you are vaccinated.
The mandate isn’t that you get vaccinated. It’s that you show proof of vaccination.
Yeah I just read trough the link in post 71, wow! That will,put the fear of God into anyone trying to force people,to take the vaccines against their will.
I can see employers quietly going to the person who submits the form and saying ‘OK, OK, we will forego the mandate for,now, but keep,this quiet, alright?” Lol
Look up fetal cell objections by the orthodox church
Get some old dude to get the injection for you?
;-P
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