Posted on 10/07/2021 8:26:00 AM PDT by SoConPubbie
During the time period in question, unvaccinated people reportedly accounted for 257,357 Delta cases out of 593,572 total Delta cases (approximately 43 percent), and 722 out of 2,542 Delta deaths (approximately 28 percent) “within 28 days of positive specimen date.” What does that mean? It means that the vast majority of Delta deaths in England during this period occurred among vaccinated people, NOT unvaccinated people.
If your assumptions help you rationalize this holocaust and maiming, that’s something I guess.
Since children almost never die of Covid, vaxxing them all should help pad your numbers.
“The Delta variants are the ‘break throughs’ from the original ‘jab’. Viri are known to mutate readily in order to survive.”
In December 2020, when Delta was first detected in India, there were very few people vaccinated in that country.
Not so good at math but my rough calculation is that the death rate for over 50 years of age unvaccinated is approximately 3 tomes that of the over 50 vaccinated. Are my calculations wrong ? Could use help.
“Since children almost never die of Covid, vaxxing them all should help pad your numbers.”
I’m not a supporter of general childhood Covid vaccination at this time.
I have stated in the past:
I estimate that if 10 million young American students are vaccinated in the near future, about 60,000 ‘people of color’ in the Third World will die needlessly.
South Africa’s equivalent of Dr. Fauci made it clear on NPR BBC news at 9am a few months back that we are “all in this together, that none of us is safe until all of us are safe”.
As far as I’ve have read, children are highly resistant to coronavirus infection from strains common in the USA, but 65-year old women in Mexico, Brazil & India are not.
Well that is the question. Mostly older folks with health conditions got vaxxed, so it stands to reason there is stil. Going to be a number of them dying even with the vax
The question to know an answer to now is, what is the % of deaths of old sickly people now compared to what it was before the vaccines arrived? Has it increased? Decreased?
Your math is correct, actually this data proves that the vaccine works. The only reason the raw numbers in the greater than 50 are group has more vaccinated death is that probably the greater than 50 group has 90+% vaccination rate.
Right on,
The CDC reports that in the month of September 2021 (i.e., the month just ending), there was a total of 42,054 people in the United States who died and whose deaths were "associated with COVID-19." By this, the CDC explains that this means "[d]eaths with confirmed or presumed COVID-19, coded to ICD–10 code U07.1."
By contrast, the CDC reports that in the month of September 2020, there was a total of 19,138 people in the U.S. who died and whose deaths were "associated with COVID-19."
In other words, per the CDC itself, using an apples-to-apples comparison, some 22,916 more people died last month "from/with" COVID than did so a year ago in September. Now, of course, I suppose it is fair to say that in September 2020, much of the country was in more of a "lockdown" mode that was the case last month. At the same time, it seems important to note that in September 2020, no one in the U.S. had been vaccinated.
Further, one might have imagined that those most vulnerable to COVID would have for the most part succumbed in the initial pandemic wave(s) in 2020, leaving less "dry kindling," as it were, at the present time.
I don't know myself what to make of these data. The death statistics are broken out at the state level as well. Makes for interesting reading, but I'm not smart enough, I don't think, to identify any meaningful patterns.
Some information possibly relevant to booster decision making:
“Moderna’s shot contains 100 micrograms of vaccine, more than three times the 30 micrograms in the Pfizer shot.”
Is that what the charts are showing though? Is that whatnthe figures are for vaxxed and unvaxxed
“supposedly” the vaccines increase the chance of the sick and elderly surviving by I dunno, say 60% (and even that is questionable at this point, but for sake of argument, go with 60%)
So let’s say 100,000 sick and elderly people out of 200,000 “woild have died” without the vaccine, they take the vax, a d get an increased chance of surviving it by 60%
This means instead of all 100,000 dying, now only 40,000 will die
(Note, I’m not saying any of this is what is actually happening real world- just what they claim)
Instead, according to the article, unless I’m reading it wrong (long restless night), those deaths are going up, not down?
If this is what is g happening, then rand Paul, with the backing of other Republicans, should be ca,Ling an emergency meeting, and demanding that an I vestigstion happen now- not later, as the vaccine seems to be increasing the likelihood of dying, not decreasing it as promised.
Maybe I’m reading what you wrote wrong? It seems that you are saying the risk of dying is less in the unvaccinated than in the vaxxed? (91 deaths in the vaxxed compared to just 58 for unvaxxed?)
The chart is confusing, to say the least, but it shows just how thorough they were in classifying patients. The evidence IS there if you can understand it.
Here in the USA, we can’t even get “OF” COVID or “WITH” COVID clarified.
“I don’t know myself what to make of these data. The death statistics are broken out at the state level as well. Makes for interesting reading, but I’m not smart enough, I don’t think, to identify any meaningful patterns.”
Look at the top 2 rows, the last 2 columns. It shows about 8,000 of 240,000 unvaccinated were over 50 years old (about 3%) while 70,000 out of 150,000 vaccinated were over 50 years old (about 45 percent). So there were 15 times as many old people in the vaccinated group. So the larger number of deaths in the vaccinated group suggests the vaccines work. It makes the risk that an old person has equal to the risk that a young person has. This study from the UK has been posted at least 5 times. The person (or Chinese disinformation robot) always claims that it shows the vaccines don’t work, which is false.
That would temper any expectations you had that you could draw any sane conclusions from their data.
Believe me, as I've had personal experience interacting with the CDC, I'm well aware of how much I can trust what they say. That said, what I was observing here is that, by the CDC's own representations, more people in the U.S. have died "with/from" COVID in September 2021 than did so in September 2020, notwithstanding the fact that, in September 2020, no one had yet been vaccinated.
And since, by law, the CDC is the federal government's number one cheerleader in promoting vaccines, I find this data coming out of the CDC curious indeed. One might have expected that, if "dishonesty" was on the table with respect to this reported data, to see something different.
Or, as has been said by others, if the vaccines work, then why aren't they working? In this case, though, mine is not a rhetorical question. There are presumably other confounders in play here that may provide an explanation, but I don't know what those might be.
A nurse whistleblower interviewed by Stew Peters said there is no Delta. The hospital notes, charts, records etc. never refers to Delta, no one uses the term and there is no test for Delta.
She said the only time she read ‘Delta’ was in an email from Hospital Administration pressuring the staff to get the ‘vaccine’. Otherwise, it doesn’t exist.
The nurse, and others, have said that ‘Delta’ is actually those harmed by the vaccine, not a relapse of a contagion. Horrible injuries which the hospital then treats with Remdesivir, which causes cardio and kidney damage.
There is no Delta. There is no intention to help people enduring vaccine harm - instead they are made worse.
We’re not in Kansas anymore.
WWI soldiers were given 25 poison injections...
[[ It makes the risk that an old person has equal to the risk that a young person has. ]]
That’s what I was wondering, but wasn’t sure I was reading it right, because it could tradicts the headline it seemed.
What we need to know is, has the number of vaxxed elderly a d sickly deaths gone up? Or gone down? And how do they compare to unvaxxed elderly and sick?
If it drops the risk of dying to that of healthy people, then that is significant. But I’m guessing that ivermectin probably helps even more when caught early enough.
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