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Public education is dead in this country. Can we get our tax money back?!
1 posted on 09/20/2021 10:30:41 AM PDT by Rummyfan
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To: Rummyfan

it’s TaxFraud


2 posted on 09/20/2021 10:32:56 AM PDT by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. P144:1)
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To: Rummyfan

“Who got my back?”


3 posted on 09/20/2021 10:33:21 AM PDT by Fester Chugabrew (No nation that sanctions the wholesale slaughter of its unborn citizens is fit to endure.)
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Different David Thompson...


4 posted on 09/20/2021 10:33:45 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: Rummyfan

The public school system is insane, at least big pockets of it is. This “teacher” seemed like he was dead serious making these crazy comments about good behavior being a form of “white supremacy”.

https://nypost.com/2021/09/15/virginia-teacher-says-making-kids-behave-is-white-supremacy/


5 posted on 09/20/2021 10:33:59 AM PDT by NohSpinZone (First thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers)
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To: Rummyfan

Two tips:

1) Throwing more money at the problem won’t work. You tried that.
2) Blaming white guys for the problem won’t work. You tried that.

Maybe we should say to the black community: “Go Fix Yourself”.


6 posted on 09/20/2021 10:37:03 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (China is like the Third Reich. We are Mussolini's Italy. A weaker, Jr partner, good at losing wars.)
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I was looking at my youngest girl’s English text book.

America, 7th grade.

First off, it’s not as challenging as her Israeli English text book, 5th grade. English is her second language, mind you.

Second, every story is some iteration of: protagonist is non-white girl, smarter than everyone. Poor and oppressed. Evil white girl wants award and will get it even though she is stupid bc daddy is rich. Principal changes the rules to make white girl win. Non-white heroine prevails because she has the power of melanin that makes her better than evil people of palor.


7 posted on 09/20/2021 10:37:44 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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Change and decay in all around I see...

We are now seeing what happens when these feral children start teaching other feral children.

Public screwl is a waste of time and money.

Soon they will declare home schooling discriminatory, unfair advantage.


13 posted on 09/20/2021 10:49:04 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (Politicians are only marginally good at one thing, being politicians. Otherwise they are fools.)
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To: Rummyfan
Give parents vouchers so they can send their kids to education facilities that will educate them...

As good money drives out bad so good schools drive out bad schools. (yes, capitalism works)

Can you imagine being in a sane world - - a principal turns to a hothead liberal union jerk/teacher and says, "those commie posters in your classroom have to go OR you go 'cause we've got parents pulling their kids out of our facility and moving them to a competitor... so which is it"?

In short - let's dump 'education socialism'...

14 posted on 09/20/2021 10:49:48 AM PDT by GOPJ (Try Milley and his commie cabal for treason - then put them to death.It'll be a lesson for the young)
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teachers are all for this because now they have cover for their incompetency.....no standards...no problem.....


25 posted on 09/20/2021 11:09:58 AM PDT by cherry
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There was an 80’s book called, “The Graves of Academe” which predicted the demise of our public educational system. For years I believed that the only real problem the US had was its woeful educational system, but now we see the fruits of this problem which are existential threats, economically and politically. And we are importing more difficult to assimilate and educate “migrants” every day.

Blacks are more difficult to educate than whites. Hispanics are next and Asians are easiest. It follows the IQ distribution. On top of that blacks score high in self esteem, meaning they take offense easily when criticized. Schooling for them is therefore difficult.

Sure there are intelligent blacks and Hispanics but they get pressured to conform by their more numerous brothers.

The only solution is private schooling with discipline and grade advancement only with measured achievement. Give everyone 12 years of subsidized education with amounts income determined. If students can’t or won’t learn, they are excused but can come back later if they want to finish. Make schools teaching institutions; not warehouses for young people.

Of course this will never happen as the politicians and unions won’t allow it.


29 posted on 09/20/2021 11:19:05 AM PDT by JeanLM (Obama proved melanin is just enough to win elections Trump proves being good is not enough..)
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Oregon students shouldn’t have to prove they can write or do math to get a diploma, lawmakers decide!

The Oregonian ^ | Jun 16, 2021 | Betsy Hammond
Posted on 6/21/2021, 4:16:01 PM by george76

Students in the class of 2021 did not have to prove they could write or do math at a basic level to earn their diplomas. A bill headed to Gov. Kate Brown would prohibit any such requirement at least until 2027.

A bill to prohibit Oregon schools from requiring students to show they can read, write and do math at a basic high school level is headed to Gov. Kate Brown after lawmakers gave final approval Wednesday.

The idea is to hit pause on the requirements, in place since 2009 but already suspended during the pandemic, at least until the class of 2024 gets their diplomas and for Oregon to thoughtfully reexamine its graduation requirements in the meantime. A report recommending what the new standards should be is due to the Legislature and Oregon Board of Education by September 2022.

But since Oregon has long insisted it would not impose new graduation requirements on students who have already begun high school, new requirements would not take effect until the class of 2027 at the very earliest. So at least five more classes could be expected to graduate without needing to demonstrate roughly 10th grade level proficiency in math and writing.

The decision to remove the skills requirement was largely but not entirely a party-line one, with Democrats staunchly opposing the proficiency rules and Republicans decrying what they see as a lowering of academic standards.

A spokesperson for Brown told The Oregonian/OregonLive Wednesday she has yet to decide whether she will sign the bill, veto it or allow it to become law without her signature. (She proudly signed the bill!)

Oregone, unlike other states, did not require students to pass a particular standardized test or any test at all. Students could show their ability to use English and do math via about five different tests or by completing an in-depth classroom project judged by their own teachers. In reality, most schools relied primarily on standardized tests and most students easily passed them.

But demonstrating proficiency proved most challenging for students who learned English as a second language, students with disabilities and students of color.

Officials on the Oregon Board of Education, when they enacted the “essential skills” graduation requirement more than a decade ago, said they hoped no student would be denied a diploma for lacking the skills but that schools would step up and help juniors and seniors who hadn’t mastered enough English or math to do so. Many high schools created special math and writing workshop classes for seniors who needed to demonstrate those skills to get their diplomas.

The bill calls on the diverse committee studying graduation requirements to come up with a recommendation “with the goal of ensuring that the processes and outcomes related to the requirements for high school diplomas are equitable, accessible and inclusive.”

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3969771/posts

https://www.oregonlive.com/education/2021/06/oregon-students-shouldnt-have-to-prove-they-can-write-or-do-math-to-get-a-diploma-lawmakers-decide.html


It is simple, Eliminating schools as places to learn and making them serve as day care centers all day. Beginning with breakfast, morning breaks, lunch, afternoon breaks and a dinner before going home. Maybe midnight basketball.

Teachers and their unions will still paid. Any so called classes will be conducted by supposedly graduates, and the highly paid teachers will monitor those former classes on Zoom.

More Gardeners, janitors and other custodial care at the former schools will require more union workers.

So our taxes will go up for the above B$!


31 posted on 09/20/2021 11:23:05 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( In your private, business, social and what ever life!: "All ways, ask Cui Bono?"!)
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You can’t expect blacks and mexicans to act civilized /random_liberal

Liberals are the most racist people in America.


33 posted on 09/20/2021 12:58:46 PM PDT by zeugma (Stop deluding yourself that America is still a free country.)
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To: Rummyfan; ClearCase_guy; Jewbacca; hoe_cake; Sequoyah101; cherry; JeanLM
I sent this letter to Oregon papers and the school board members where I live.

Yep. That is a primary reason we and my two boy’s families may soon end up in Wyoming. Retain Mike

From: Lars Larson Sent: Friday, September 10, 2021 1:47 PM To: Retain Mike Subject: Re: Eliminating Educational Standards

pretty crazy, isn't it?

On Fri, Sep 10, 2021 at 1:44 PM Nolan Nelson wrote:

As a new school year begins, students will no longer be required to demonstrate skills in reading, writing, and math. For the next five years, an Oregon high school diploma will be no guarantee of academic achievement, but only of participation in a system with undefined parameters. The legislators, school districts, and governor supporting Senate Bill 744 saw that this “will benefit Oregon’s Black, Latino, Latina, Latinx, Indigenous, Asian, Pacific Islander, Tribal, and students of color”.

So now we have moved to the position held by many 19th century abolitionists. When I read The Life and Times of Fredrick Douglass, one passage always stayed with me. After speaking to an abolitionist audience, Douglass considered the evening a great success, because he concluded his talk believing these people were convinced, he was equally human with them. He mentioned this as a significant event, because even the strongest supporters of black freedom questioned whether these people were as fully human. If educators would treat these people as individuals, they would design programs allowing an opportunity for commensurate achievement.

I remember Dr. Martin Luther King saying, "I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character…..little black boys and black girls will be able to join hands with little white boys and white girls as sisters and brothers.” I guess the statement still makes sense to me.

34 posted on 09/20/2021 12:58:49 PM PDT by Retain Mike ( Sat Cong)
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almost 80% of black and Hispanic eighth graders have been deemed “not proficient” in maths or reading

I'd add hearing/listening comprehension, As in when a LEO gives a command to stop or show your hands, why do 80% either reach in their pocket or immediately run?

39 posted on 09/20/2021 1:29:36 PM PDT by 1Old Pro (Let's make crime illegal again!)
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Go into any inner city neighborhood, and folks will tell you that government alone can’t teach our kids to learn — they know that parents have to teach, that children can’t achieve unless we raise their expectations and turn off the television sets and eradicate the slander that says a black youth with a book is acting white. ~Barack Obama , 2004 Democratic National Convention

Speech at 2004 Democratic National Convention

42 posted on 09/20/2021 1:42:07 PM PDT by Kevmo (I’m immune from Covid since I don’t watch TV.🤗)
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And this:

Low achievement? Dump the tests

44 posted on 09/20/2021 1:57:41 PM PDT by Rummyfan (In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man. Support Israel.d)
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Government controlled unions tend to do that it’s why they want to control all of them Mafia not happy.

JFK pass the law for public workers to have unions for a reason.


46 posted on 09/20/2021 2:48:08 PM PDT by Vaduz (women and children to be impacIQ of chimpsted the most.)
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To: Rummyfan

bookmark


48 posted on 09/20/2021 6:41:20 PM PDT by simpson96
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