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Prepping with non-preppers: Don’t burn bridges before SHTF
starvation.news ^ | 9/1/21 | Zoey Sky

Posted on 09/02/2021 4:05:13 PM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal

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To: Wissa; gloryblaze

Their hands and clothes are too clean too.

They’ve not been working out in a garden recently.

Or IMO, ever at all.


41 posted on 09/02/2021 5:24:12 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith…)
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To: metmom
They’ve not been working out in a garden recently. Or IMO, ever at all.

Yeah. My impression from comparing their skin to mine is that they aren't spending much time in the sun.

42 posted on 09/02/2021 5:28:28 PM PDT by Wissa (Unthinking respect for authority is the greatest enemy of truth. -- Albert Einstein)
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To: suthener
I don’t think people have a clue as to what would happen in a true grid down situation. Some people above were talking about generators. I guess they have thousand gallon fuel tanks in their yard. Otherwise I don’t know where they think they will get fuel. What are your friendly neighbors going to do when their families inevitably start starving to death and know, or even suspect, that you have some food? You better not even walk out of your house. There will be desperate people trying to take what you have within a week of total grid failure.

True that.

However, one thing to consider is that in the north here, if there's a grid down for any length of time in the winter, the starving hordes are far more likely to freeze to death trying to find food in the rural areas than most realize.

I have watched in amazement for years not as people beebop around in winter with no coats or in shorts and t-shirts.

They figure they are just running errands and in their car or a building so no problem.

They do not stop to realize that if that car breaks down and they are not dressed for the weather, they can freeze to death in very short order, no matter how cool they think they look playing tough guy.,P> Then even in the spring and summer, there's contaminated water to deal with and ticks, and simply finding shelter at night. And avoiding getting shot by all the gun owners in these parts.

I could see a huge increase in Lyme disease here in the northeast by city slickers who have no clue how to deal with ticks.

43 posted on 09/02/2021 5:33:00 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith…)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal
This is so useless.   Reread the fable of the Ant and the Grasshopper.   You can no more teach a grasshopper to prepare than you can teach Biden to think.   In the long run you are better without the friends and family who belittled and ridiculed your foresight and preparedness.   If you don't burn bridges they would in the eleventh hour demand a seat in galt's gulch.   Grasshoppers will turn into Plagues of Locusts.
44 posted on 09/02/2021 5:43:27 PM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken )
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To: higgmeister

I always think of the Twilight Zone episode, “The Shelter”, about how the neighbors ridiculed the man who built a nuclear shelter......until they thought a nuclear attack was coming.

It’s Democrats in a nutshell.


45 posted on 09/02/2021 5:44:59 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: cgbg
If things get ugly you make a sign:
“Quarantine.”
Extra points for a fake health department printout under it.


I thought that only worked in Bugs Bunny cartoons (and "The Scarlet Pimpernel")

46 posted on 09/02/2021 5:50:07 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: dfwgator

Great Twilight Zone episode—probably influenced my thinking quite a bit.

That is why you need self-reliant neighbors—and that is normal for rural folks.


47 posted on 09/02/2021 5:52:06 PM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal
Did you lose your temper and cut off ties with friends or even family members who don't understand your lifestyle and prepping priorities?

No.

Because the people who know we prep can be counted on our fingers with some left over.

48 posted on 09/02/2021 5:56:26 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (I refuse to be afraid. I refuse to bow. I refuse to take any job I do not wish to. So BUZZ OFF!)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

I live in VERY rural Hawaii. I have land, animals, water
and if I put them up I’d be “Off grid” all solar and battery backed up.
We don’t have cities here.
We all are preppers by definition as we face
volcanoes, Earthquakes, wild fires, Tsunami, dock strikes, et al
In fact I can only think of sand storms or locusts that we don’t experience, although we have to drive to get to a blizzard. (summit of Mauna Kea).
Urban people have a way different problem set than a rural environment.

One Thing both need to do at the start is to realize, the veneer of society is very thin and food doesn’t come from Safeway, your tap water doesn’t magically show up, electricity will not always be there, and most importantly you may need your neighbors in bad times even if they are butt heads and they may need your help.
Above all Government is not YOUR FRIEND!
Once you get the right attitude it is all baby steps.


49 posted on 09/02/2021 6:03:56 PM PDT by rellic
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To: rellic

Excellent post—which reminds me of one more basic prepper tip.

Do favors for your (hopefully rural!) neighbors asking nothing in return.

It will pay dividends down the road.


50 posted on 09/02/2021 6:20:20 PM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

I tried to share this article on FB but it was barred due to its url, “Starvation news”! (Yes, I know...it’s FB! I’m still there.)

Best I could do was post the title and an excerpt.


51 posted on 09/02/2021 6:50:32 PM PDT by Wasichu
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To: metmom

“However, one thing to consider is that in the north here, if there’s a grid down for any length of time in the winter, the starving hordes are far more likely to freeze to death trying to find food in the rural areas than most realize.”

You’re right about everything you said, but I’m down south. I’d be more likely to die of heat stroke with no a/c. I have to remind myself to put a coat in my truck for emergencies in the winter because it has to be relatively very cold before I’ll put one on.


52 posted on 09/02/2021 7:15:18 PM PDT by suthener ( )
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

“I’m talking just seeing another human will mean violence.”

That’s exactly right. Even if you think you have friends you better make sure they have at least as much food as you do so that when you run out you run out together. If there is a disparity you won’t be friends when it becomes apparent.


53 posted on 09/02/2021 7:17:50 PM PDT by suthener ( )
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To: suthener

In the heat, yes, heat stroke can be deadly, not to mention lack of salt and water can kill someone quickly if they are sweating profusely and don’t know better.

And then you guys have lovely things like fire ants and Africanized bees to deal with.


54 posted on 09/02/2021 7:34:17 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith…)
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To: shanover

Cities will run out of food in a week. Within 3 weeks local town and city folks will be in the country, using their last gas or pair of tennis shoes to get there because they know food and shelter is there.

In the country, you’re actually in more danger because you’re on acreage and alone and it’s impossible for a single couple to maintain a perimeter guard. Which is why you can’t prep alone and you can’t survive alone. You need a local group that you are a part of and that can share in the defense. Either relatives bugging out to you, in which case you is where their buggout supplies already are. Or your most trusted next door neighbors, with whom you can share perimeter defense for at least 3 months. The relatively benign human traffic will have passed through by then, or claimed a homestead, but after 3 months the hardcore jerks will start coming through. All this means you need people to cooperate with if you intend to survive.


55 posted on 09/02/2021 8:06:03 PM PDT by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017) )
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To: blueplum

James Burke laid it all out in the First Episode of “Connections”

https://youtu.be/XetplHcM7aQ?t=1349


56 posted on 09/02/2021 8:07:40 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: blueplum
You need a local group that you are a part of and that can share in the defense.

I'd rather not have a comrade that will turn on me when the the rules of civilization are no longer in effect.   One man alone can check his own perimeter for the past several thousand years.

57 posted on 09/02/2021 11:01:41 PM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken )
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To: Veggie Todd

I agree with you. The first rule about fight club, is that nobody talks about fight club.


58 posted on 09/03/2021 7:23:39 AM PDT by DesertRhino (A coup government may not claim the protection of the same constitution it overthrew. )
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To: metmom

Fully agree with you.


59 posted on 09/03/2021 7:27:28 AM PDT by DesertRhino (A coup government may not claim the protection of the same constitution it overthrew. )
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

I don’t tell people anything


60 posted on 09/03/2021 7:29:13 AM PDT by AppyPappy (How many fingers am I holding up, Winston? )
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