[White Lives Matter]

This is something I never pondered. If true, the American intelligence apparatus and military was completely outwitted by these third worlders.

[ClearCase_guy]

they appear to have simply called everyone in the entire country, instead, told them they were in control, and began assuming the functions of government as they went.

Maybe we should try that.

[Celerity]

I have my doubts. To put it lightly.

To put it honestly this guy knows nothing about any of the subjects he’s writing about.

[BobL]

Naa, I don’t buy it. Much more likely that the Taliban simply pulled up to each of the cities, sent a rep in to tell the mayor or government military dude something like “We know who your family is and where they live”. And that was it.

[ConservativeInPA]

Thanks Zuckerberg. You’re an anti-American piece of schiff that needs to be hanged for providing aid to the enemy.

[House Atreides]

“ This is something I never pondered. If true, the American intelligence apparatus and military was completely outwitted by these third worlders.”
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It’s the result of many years of installing and promoting “perfumed princes” within the military’s officer ranks. Striving for “equity” instead of competence will yield incompetence. You end up with PUDGY, PASTY SOFT-LOOKING INFANTRY OFFICERS like LTC Vindman who clearly is a leftist Agendanista and not a leader of men.

The CIA, just like the FBI, has been loading up and advancing leftist anti-Americans for decades.

[BusterDog]

” . . . the American intelligence apparatus and military was completely outwitted by these third worlders.”

*****

With CCP help and direction.

[Repeal The 17th]

“...Did America just lose Afghanistan...”
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You can’t lose what you never had.

[Grzegorz 246]

“Conventionally, the United States did everything right...”

Not in case of that tribal shithole. These people are unable to operate the government, army etc. You could as well give books to a group of monkeys.

Instead of trying to build a civilized army, they should have just paid some local chiefs, warlords etc. to form their militias and do the job.

[fruser1]

They learned this from us.

Biden did this at the end of last year.

[grey_whiskers]

[mcshot]

We should long know that you can’t fight for countries that won’t fight for themself, and expect a good result.

[Nifster]

No. It was lost for always the same reason….nation building is useless

[grey_whiskers]

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/paula-bolyard/2021/08/15/shock-taliban-is-paying-military-commanders-to-surrender-cities-journalist-embedded-in-afghanistan-says-n1469769

[texas booster]

Middle Eastern wars are almost always just pushing matches. They spend their time shooting in the air but few seldom are killed.

Instead they argue and shout, and just get more of the other guys “soldiers” to quit and join their side. Could well be bribes, but the scale of the collapse shows that it is tribalism at its best, fighting the way they did before we ever came along.

One of their lasting impressions of Americans is that we do not fight fair but try to blow everything up. We kill people, dead.

They don’t and everyone gets to live another day to fight.

They are all muzzies, if even on separate pages.

[Robert DeLong]

It appears the Taliban tried something different this time around. Open source reporting shows that rather than rocking up and going toe to toe with the Afghan national army, they appear to have simply called everyone in the entire country, instead, told them they were in control, and began assuming the functions of government as they went:

There was 1 for sure and possibly 2 episodes (memory is not real sure on the number) like that on the old TV show The Saint. They bluffed that the good guys had taken the country and met no resistance whatsoever. 🙂

The one I can be sure of happened in the Middle East, and the other one happened in South America, if my memory on that one is accurate. 🙂

[cuz1961]

called everyone in the entire country, instead, told them they were in control, and began assuming the functions of government as they went:
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Sounds familiar.

[Albion Wilde]

they appear to have simply called everyone in the entire country, instead, told them they were in control, and began assuming the functions of government as they went

Pronunciamiento
A pronunciamiento (Spanish: [pɾonunθjaˈmjento], Portuguese: pronunciamento [pɾunũsiɐˈmẽtu]; "proclamation, announcement or declaration") is a form of military rebellion or coup d'état particularly associated with Spain, Portugal and Latin America, especially in the 19th century.

Looks like Wikipedia is going to have to add Dari and Pashto translations and "Islamic nations" to their definition.

[Enterprise]

" If true, the American intelligence apparatus and military was completely outwitted by these third worlders."

Well, as they might say, when it comes to a battle of wits, Government bureaucrats are unarmed.

[x]

Not terribly different, if true, from what Lenin did in 1917. He did have to secure the capital before he issued his pronunciamento, though.

[blueplum]

there's a later posted article that alludes to commanders being paid off to not defend the town.

I posted an article last night that alluded to the Chinese having pow-wows with ‘pakistan taliban’ about extending diplomatic ties to the afghanistan taliban (pretty much one and the same?) around Jul 28 (not sure if the date is signif). China came out today with the old carrot/stick - “we'll build you roads, long long time!” I wouldn't put it past China to have ‘contributed’ to the firepower and or logistics of the Taliban that allowed them to sweep towns without doing much entering of towns. China knowing Beijing Biden would do zipity doo da.

my two cents to add to the equation