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This is Nuts, Moderna and Pfizer Intentionally Lost The Clinical Trial Control Group Testing Vaccine Efficacy and Safety
Conservative Treehouse ^
| August 6, 2021
| Sundance
Posted on 08/07/2021 4:43:44 PM PDT by CheshireTheCat
This is not just scientific madness, it appears to be very intentional and purposeful.
The Moderna and Pfizer vaccine tests were conducted, as customary, with a control group; a group within the trial who were given a placebo and not the test vaccine. However, during the trial -and after the untested vaccines were given emergency use authorization- the vaccine companies conducting the trial decided to break protocol and notify the control group they were not vaccinated. Almost all the control group were then given the vaccine.
Purposefully dissolving the placebo group violates the scientific purpose to test whether the vaccine has any efficacy; any actual benefit and/or safety issues. Without a control group there is nothing to compare the vaccinated group against. According to NPR, the doctors lost the control group in the Johnson County Clinicial Trial (Lexena, Kansas) on purpose:
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When I was a kid, I once "lost" the directions (written down for me at school by another kid--'cause this was pre Internet days) to the home of another kid whose dumb birthday party I didn't want to go to.
To: CheshireTheCat
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posted on
08/07/2021 4:44:59 PM PDT
by
E. Pluribus Unum
("Communism is not love. Communism is a hammer which we use to crush the enemy." ― Mao Zedong)
To: CheshireTheCat
Which means they have no way of showing whether the shots work or not. We just have to take their word for it?
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posted on
08/07/2021 4:46:20 PM PDT
by
Not A Snowbird
(I do not recognize Biden’s authority.)
the medical community is a cult — often caring and loving, but a cult nonetheless.
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posted on
08/07/2021 4:46:28 PM PDT
by
Gene Eric
(Don't be a statist!)
To: CheshireTheCat
When I was in Jr. High, I "lost" a report card down a sewer grate n the way home from school. Didn't get away with it. Hopefullly, neither will Pfizer and/or Moderna.
But we all know they will...
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posted on
08/07/2021 4:47:32 PM PDT
by
LIConFem
(Read up on Russia's Oct, 1917 Revolution... And prepare.)
To: CheshireTheCat
Since the vaccinated population is the active part of the test - arent the unvaccinated the only control group they need
To: CheshireTheCat
Nothing was “lost”. The headline is garbage.
There was a conscious decision made to provide the control group with vaccines once safety and efficacy was established. Considering this is for a vaccine which cuts risk of death from COVID-19 by over 99%, and given that the necessary data had already been compiled as part of the Phase 3 clinical trials, it was deemed unethical to sit back and watch people of the control group continue to get sick and die unnecessarily.
All necessary data had been collected already. The choices were to sit by and watch members of the control group die one by one needlessly, or vaccinate them. All members of the control group WANTED to be vaccinated; they were blind to the fact that they had received placebo. The claims in the article are nonsense and the implicit demand that we sit back and watch people die as part of a scientific experiment where the data no longer even has any value is absurd.
The author is effectively advocating manslaughter.
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posted on
08/07/2021 4:50:49 PM PDT
by
2aProtectsTheRest
(The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
To: Not A Snowbird
The data from the Phase 3 clinical trials was collected and made available back in December 2020. There was no need for a control group anymore. Members of the control group were getting sick and dying from COVID-19, not even knowing they hadn’t really been vaccinated. It would be horribly unethical to not provide them with the vaccine at that point.
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posted on
08/07/2021 4:52:12 PM PDT
by
2aProtectsTheRest
(The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
To: CheshireTheCat
To: Gene Eric
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posted on
08/07/2021 4:57:53 PM PDT
by
Vendome
(I've Gotta Be Me https://youtu.be/wH-pk2vZG2M)
To: 2aProtectsTheRest
What is your source? Not being argumentative, just trying to figure out who knows what.
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posted on
08/07/2021 5:03:18 PM PDT
by
Not A Snowbird
(I do not recognize Biden’s authority.)
To: 2aProtectsTheRest
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posted on
08/07/2021 5:05:47 PM PDT
by
mewzilla
(Those aren't masks. They're muzzles. )
To: CheshireTheCat
This happened DECEMBER 2020. I am part of the moderna study and had gotten the placebo, they unsealed me January 4 and I got the first shot the same day.
I am still part of the study; next appointment august 17.
This article is 7-8 months late
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posted on
08/07/2021 5:05:48 PM PDT
by
Bulwinkle
(Bulwinkle, a.k.a. Daffy Duck )
To: 2aProtectsTheRest
I actually signed up for one of the trials. You go into it knowing that you could get the placebo and you accept that.
They never did call my age group. The trial was paused before they got to me.
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posted on
08/07/2021 5:06:35 PM PDT
by
Not A Snowbird
(I do not recognize Biden’s authority.)
To: CheshireTheCat
“I’m not upset that you lied to me, I’m upset that from now on I can’t believe you.” ―
Friedrich Nietzsche“I have certain rules I live by. My first rule: I don’t believe anything the government tells me.” – George Carlin
The pronouncements from the world’s favorite science troll, who hasn’t told the truth since March 2020 when he told the world masks were useless in stopping a virus from spreading, are coming fast and furious as more and more people ignore the fear propaganda. Alpha!!! Delta!!! and now Lambda!!! We’re all going to die unless we allow Big Pharma, with no liability for killing or maiming you with their experimental gene therapy, and totalitarian politicians to inject us with a concoction which doesn’t keep you from contracting covid or spreading covid. But it may kill you, give you a dose of blood clots, or a touch of myocarditis.
Fauci, Walensky, Biden, Pasaki and the rest of the Biden apparatchiks are liars, frauds, and fear mongering whores for Big Pharma. Fauci is the father of covid. He created it with his illegal gain of function funding, partnering with the communist government of China and is responsible for all the death and economic destruction wrought over the last eighteen months. He should be tried, convicted and executed for crimes against humanity. History should lump him with the likes of Josef Mengele and other mass murders.
He continues to lie on a daily basis and the cucks in the corporate propaganda media never question his lies or push back in any way. They are co-conspirators in this authoritarian attempt to override the Constitution and enslave you in a pharmacological techno gulag. The merger of Big Government with Big Pharma, Big Tech, Big Finance and Big Corp endangers the rights, freedoms and liberties guaranteed to citizens under the U.S. Constitution.
They are pushing the country towards inevitable violent conflict by using their powers of coercion to force people to inject a substance into their bodies they do not need and do not want. For what ultimate purpose, we do not know. But we do know it is not about your health or the health of others. The current fear narrative being peddled by Fauci and Biden is the dreaded Delta variant, previously known as the Indian variant. Did you ever wonder why they had to rename the Indian variant? The chart below is why.
To continue reading, click https://www.blacklistednews.com/article/80558/trust-the.html
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posted on
08/07/2021 5:10:54 PM PDT
by
wannabegeek
(And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free. --John 8:32, it's about COVID, too.)
To: 2aProtectsTheRest
watch members of the control group die one by one needlessly, or vaccinate them
What is the death rate on this "killer disease"?
What a joke!
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posted on
08/07/2021 5:18:13 PM PDT
by
cgbg
(A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
To: Vendome
I don't know how they'll hide.
CDC, big pharma scrambling to take back control of narrative as facts and admissions hinder COVID-19 agenda.
“Three things cannot be long hidden: the sun, the moon and the truth.” Nobody knows the exact origin of that quote. But essentially it means that all three entities shine for anyone to see at any time.
Bill Gates desires to both block sunlight from reaching Earth and block the truth from reaching the masses. The truth, however, is coming to light from the most unexpected sources – the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) and the pharmaceutical industry.
Fauci mea culpas and flip flips continue
Anthony Fauci appeared on the CBS Sunday morning show “Face the Nation” two days ago. He once again spoke out of both sides of his mouth as his fans and mainstream media facilitators eat it up.
Fauci said that Delta variant cases in vaccinated people (“breakthrough cases”) have the same level of virus as unvaccinated Delta cases. He also admitted that “vaccinated people who get breakthrough infections can spread the virus to other people.” In other words, these so-called vaccines do not work as advertised.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXNNsfVUB3E
Three weeks ago, Fauci said “the data are as good as it gets” as it related to the experimental mRNA and viral vector DNA injections. He said Pfizer, Moderna and J&J should and will all get full approval from the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) because, “the efficacy or the effectiveness in the real world is unquestioned.” He continued, “These vaccines are highly, highly effective both in the clinical trial and in the real-world effectiveness studies.”
Meanwhile the CDC released a study on July 30. It found that 74% of new COVID-19 cases in Barnstable County, Massachusetts from July 3 to 17 were fully vaccinated. Thus the CDC admits that these injections do not work as advertised. The agency encouraged all people, vaxxed or otherwise, to wear masks.
Pfizer admits its mRNA shots do not work as advertised
There’s no end to the levels of lunacy in this entire COVID-19 agenda. The official Pfizer Twitter account posted on July 28 about its clinical trials for oral anti-viral treatments that work “alongside vaccines.” The company wrote, “the need for anti-viral treatment is growing” because COVID-19 keeps spreading around the world.
Pfizer admitted two things here. First, their mRNA injections do not stop the spread of COVID-19. Second, Pfizer is essentially going to rebrand Ivermectin and/or hydroxychloroquine, and sell the products for $100+ per dose. Despite admitting the mRNA injections do not work, Pfizer is seeking emergency use authorization for its third “booster shots.”
Data from Israel found that the Pfizer mRNA injections were only 39% effective at preventing COVID-19 infections in June and July. So their solution is to give booster shots to people over age 60.
CDC admits PCR tests do not work
Just when you thought things couldn’t get crazier. We wrote back in April how COVID-19 is the greatest rebranding campaign in history. The CDC not only started referring to influenza as the more sinister “COVID-19,” but also changed tabulation rules to create even more cases. Several people emailed us, calling The COVID Blog a “conspiracy website” after we published the article. The CDC must be a conspiracy website as well then.
A July 21 CDC bulletin said that the organization is withdrawing its emergency use authorization for PCR testing, effective December 31, 2021. Here is the best part of the bulletin:
CDC encourages laboratories to consider adoption of a multiplexed method that can facilitate detection and differentiation of SARS-CoV-2 and influenza viruses.
Thus the PCR tests that have been used since February 2020 cannot tell the difference between the novel coronavirus and influenza. Of course that is because the flu and COVID are the same thing. But we cannot expect the CDC to take this admission that far.
https://thecovidblog.com/2021/08/03/cdc-big-pharma-scrambling-to-take-back-control-of-narrative-as-facts-and-admissions-hinder-covid-19-agenda/
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posted on
08/07/2021 5:22:07 PM PDT
by
wannabegeek
(And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free. --John 8:32, it's about COVID, too.)
To: CheshireTheCat
Full article for perspective.
This is not just scientific madness, it appears to be very intentional and purposeful.
The Moderna and Pfizer vaccine tests were conducted, as customary, with a control group; a group within the trial who were given a placebo and not the test vaccine. However, during the trial -and after the untested vaccines were given emergency use authorization- the vaccine companies conducting the trial decided to break protocol and notify the control group they were not vaccinated. Almost all the control group were then given the vaccine.
Purposefully dissolving the placebo group violates the scientific purpose to test whether the vaccine has any efficacy; any actual benefit and/or safety issues. Without a control group there is nothing to compare the vaccinated group against. According to NPR, the doctors lost the control group in the Johnson County Clinicial Trial (Lexena, Kansas) on purpose:
(Via NPR) […] “Dr. Carlos Fierro, who runs the study there, says every participant was called back after the Food and Drug Administration authorized the vaccine.
“During that visit we discussed the options, which included staying in the study without the vaccine,” he says, “and amazingly there were people — a couple of people — who chose that.”
He suspects those individuals got spooked by rumors about the vaccine. But everybody else who had the placebo shot went ahead and got the actual vaccine. So now Fierro has essentially no comparison group left for the ongoing study. “It’s a loss from a scientific standpoint, but given the circumstances I think it’s the right thing to do,” he says.
People signing up for these studies were not promised special treatment, but once the FDA authorized the vaccines, their developers decided to offer the shots. (read more)
Just so we are clear, the final FDA authorization and approval for the vaccines are based on the outcome of these trials. As noted in the example above, the control group was intentionally lost under the auspices of “the right thing to do”, so there is no way for the efficacy, effectiveness or safety of the vaccine itself to be measured.
There’s no one left within the control group, of a statistically valid value, to give an adequate comparison of outcomes for vaxxed -vs- non-vaxxed.
Whiskey – Tango – Foxtrot !!! This is nuts.
That NPR article is one to bookmark when people start claiming the vaccination is effective.
How can the vaccine not be considered effective when there is no group of non-vaccinated people to compare the results to?
Good grief, the entire healthcare system is operating on a massive hive mindset where science, and the scientific method, is thrown out the window in favor of ideological outcomes and self-fulfilling prophecies. The fact that the researchers and doctors, apparently under the payroll of the pharmaceutical companies that have a vested financial interest in the vaccine outcome, lost the control group on purpose is alarming.
Of course, Big Pharma will promote the vaccine as beneficial, and the controlled media will promote that message with a complete disconnect from the clinical trial details, and the FDA will grant approval on results that were intentionally constructed to produce only one outcome.
Madness…. All of it.
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posted on
08/07/2021 5:22:28 PM PDT
by
Bratch
To: CheshireTheCat
Sounds like they wanted to hide something.
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posted on
08/07/2021 5:28:36 PM PDT
by
E. Pluribus Unum
("Communism is not love. Communism is a hammer which we use to crush the enemy." ― Mao Zedong)
To: CheshireTheCat; All
Its ok
All of the unvaxxed folks like me are the current control group
You’re welcome
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posted on
08/07/2021 5:48:21 PM PDT
by
Secret Agent Man
(Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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