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Quick update on the Israeli vaccine data
alexberenson ^ | 8/3/21 | Alex Berenson

Posted on 08/07/2021 4:26:24 PM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal

It is bad and getting worse.

I have a bigger Stack planned on the Pfizer trial results.

But Israel has gone back to being more transparent, and the new data are now too bad not to highlight.

A reminder - Israel and the United Kingdom were the two major countries that vaccinated earliest and most aggressively. And they are much better at providing data than the United States - they provide updates every day, which limits their opportunities to manipulate it.

Israel is now segmenting the number of serious cases by vaccinated and unvaccinated and by age on its primary data dashboard, available here:

https://datadashboard.health.gov.il/COVID-19/general?utm_source=go.gov.il&utm_medium=referral

You can use Google translate and check it for yourself. It’s actually pretty straightforward.

So here’s the chart of new serious cases each day:

As you can see, new serious cases have risen 10-fold since the beginning of July - from roughly five a day to about 40 over the last week. The overall number of patients has soared too - from 30 to more than 200.

But how many of those people are vaccinated?

The vast majority. Israel has broken out the data in various ways at various times, but throughout July most new patients were vaccinated.

In an effort to play down that reality, Israel has begun to provide data comparing RATES of serious illness in older people who were not vaccinated and those who were. And those show that as of now, unvaccinated people are still becoming seriously ill significantly more frequently than those who aren’t.

But that comparison hides a very big problem.

Israel did an excellent job convincing people over 60 to be vaccinated. Only about 1 person in 15 in that age range didn’t receive at least one dose. Fewer than 1 in 10 is not fully vaccinated.

Why should you care? Because the tiny fraction of older people who are unvaccinated in Israel at this point are almost certainly materially different than the vast majority who are. As far as I know, the Israel government hasn’t broken out the differences. But given the pressure to vaccinate, a significant number of those older unvaccinated people are likely simply too sick to tolerate the vaccine - especially those over 80, where overall vaccination rates are even higher.

But if they are too sick to tolerate the vaccine, they are obviously at much higher risk from Covid than the vaccinate. In other words, ability (and propensity) to be vaccinated is likely a marker for overall health. Researchers know this is true of the influenza vaccine - once they adjust for the fact that older people who get the vaccine are healthier to start than than those who don’t, the advantage the vaccine seems to offer mostly disappears.

So the comparison between vaccinated and unvaccinated isn’t useful.

What is useful is examining the trend among serious illness in older vaccinated people.

And it is terrible. The rate of cases has risen 12-fold IN A MONTH. On July 4th, fewer than 1 older vaccinated person in 100,000 became seriously ill. Today the rate is 10 in 100,000.

Remember - comparing unvaccinated and vaccinated at this point hardly matters. THE DARK GREEN LINE IS THE ONE THAT COUNTS:

And though we cannot be sure what will happen next, it is worth noting that rates of serious illness among the vaccinated are now as high as they were among the unvaccinated only TWO WEEKS AGO. Perhaps that’s why the Israeli government is now predicting a further quadrupling of new serious cases by the end of August.

A quadrupling would represent 800 serious cases, approaching the peak of the winter surge (which was itself probably FUELED by a spike in cases following the first vaccine dose) - and far more than at this time last year.

And remember, Israel CANNOT BLAME THE UNVACCINATED FOR THIS SPIKE - around 85 percent of adults over 30 are fully vaccinated. That’s well above the range experts said would provide herd immunity.

And yet instead of pulling back and at least considering a pause on vaccinations as it digests the disaster of the last month, Israel is going the other way - pushing a third dose on the elderly. Meanwhile the cry to mandate or quasi-mandate vaccinations in the United States is only getting louder.


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Health/Medicine; Society
KEYWORDS: antivaxnonsense; covid19; illness; israel; vaccines
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1 posted on 08/07/2021 4:26:24 PM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal
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To: Roman_War_Criminal; metmom; Jane Long; grey_whiskers; ransomnote

Covid Ping for Israel - vaccines “don’t work”...


2 posted on 08/07/2021 4:29:05 PM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (Jesus + Something = Nothing ; Jesus + Nothing = Everything )
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

Meanwhile the cry to mandate or quasi-mandate vaccinations in the United States
is only getting louder.


It’s going to get pretty crazy. The CDC has been weeks behind “real time” info. Soon they will say boosters needed so does that mean your Pax passport can expire LOL?

Coming soon to the USA
VIDEO: Italians burning their proof of vaccination passes
https://rumble.com/vkttpn-italians-burning-their-proof-of-vaccination-passes.html


3 posted on 08/07/2021 4:32:04 PM PDT by janetjanet998
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

If everyone is vaccinated, ALL of the breakthroughs will be in vaccinated people.

I follow this data very closely. How do the absolute number of cases, hospitalizations, and deaths compare to the prevaccine population results?


4 posted on 08/07/2021 4:34:54 PM PDT by Jim Noble (The nation cannot be saved until the GOP is destroyed)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

If I were to ever get covid, I blame the vaccinated. A guy I take to work every day had the vax. Now he’s constantly sick. I’m tempted to tell him to wear a mask if you get in my car


5 posted on 08/07/2021 4:35:52 PM PDT by roving
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

so everyone is/can get it . What is their health like to start ?


6 posted on 08/07/2021 4:37:03 PM PDT by butlerweave
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

Predict the cases amongst the vaccinated vs unvaxed in the U.S. will flip in approx two months.


7 posted on 08/07/2021 4:37:08 PM PDT by Chauncey Gardiner
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

Hey... I wonder what happens to graphene oxide when it’s exposed to an EMP from a nuclear explosion?

Why do I get the feeling that experiment is about to take place?


8 posted on 08/07/2021 4:39:20 PM PDT by Safrguns
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

you have a perverted definition of ‘fail’...I see 75-100 deaths a day 6 months ago, and now 5-10 deaths a day instead; I say that is success, with room for improvement.

Then again, if you are hoping that millions of innocent people will die from the side-effects of the vaccine, then I I guess this would be a failure from your point of view....


9 posted on 08/07/2021 4:41:01 PM PDT by qwerty1234
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

Thanks for posting and for the ping.


10 posted on 08/07/2021 4:41:56 PM PDT by Jane Long (America, Bless God....blessed be the Nation.)
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To: qwerty1234

I wonder how many you infected


11 posted on 08/07/2021 4:42:09 PM PDT by roving
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To: roving

>>I wonder how many you infected

I wonder how many children you have molested?


12 posted on 08/07/2021 4:43:38 PM PDT by qwerty1234
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To: roving

I think I’d tell him to take a bus


13 posted on 08/07/2021 4:47:21 PM PDT by cableguymn (We need a redneck in the white house.... But the fact checkers said the story was false!)
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To: Chauncey Gardiner

Predict the cases amongst the vaccinated vs unvaxed in the U.S. will flip in approx two months.

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Could be a reason why they are in such a hurry to vax everyone.


14 posted on 08/07/2021 4:51:09 PM PDT by delta7
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>> How do the absolute number of cases, hospitalizations, and deaths compare to the prevaccine population results?

The data is tainted and made favorable to the hospitals’ financials.


15 posted on 08/07/2021 4:54:55 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

Looking at the Severely Ill chart you posted, it looks like the vaccine is working. Blue is the Un-vaccinated, Green is on vaccine shot, and dark green is fully vaccinated.

The chart Looks actually pretty straightforward showing it is better to have the Vaccine. I am glad Israel is being more transparent.

If you hover your mouse over the i in a circle on the website it will tell you more info on reading the chart.

Thanks for sharing this is an eye opener.


16 posted on 08/07/2021 5:06:41 PM PDT by DEPcom (Floyd died from being a drug addict. Drugs kill)
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To: Gene Eric

“ The data is tainted and made favorable to the hospitals’ financials”

You know that how?


17 posted on 08/07/2021 5:09:19 PM PDT by Jim Noble (The nation cannot be saved until the GOP is destroyed)
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To: Jim Noble

They went from 5 to 40 cases a day. (According to the article) So,they’re all gonna die!


18 posted on 08/07/2021 5:14:17 PM PDT by Fai Mao (I don't think we have enough telephone poles.)
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To: roving

“If I were to ever get covid, I blame the vaccinated. “

A lot of people who are vaccinated don’t believe they can spread the virus. My vaccinated niece and her husband spread it to my brother and sister in-law.

My Brother and his Wife have medical conditions where it would be unwise for then to take the vaccine. So far, my sister-in-law is sick with my brother only having mild issues. Both will be better off with natural immunity after the fact.


19 posted on 08/07/2021 5:19:46 PM PDT by DEPcom (Floyd died from being a drug addict. Drugs kill)
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To: Gene Eric

Reports from about this time last year.


20 posted on 08/07/2021 5:21:20 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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