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Quick update on the Israeli Covid vaccine data: It is bad and getting worse.
Unreported Truths ^
| 08/03/2021
| Alex Berenson
Posted on 08/04/2021 10:02:59 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
I have a bigger Stack planned on the Pfizer trial results.
But Israel has gone back to being more transparent, and the new data are now too bad not to highlight.
A reminder - Israel and the United Kingdom were the two major countries that vaccinated earliest and most aggressively. And they are much better at providing data than the United States - they provide updates every day, which limits their opportunities to manipulate it.
Israel is now segmenting the number of serious cases by vaccinated and unvaccinated and by age on its primary data dashboard, available here:
CLICK THIS LINK
You can use Google translate and check it for yourself. It’s actually pretty straightforward.
So here’s the chart of new serious cases each day:
As you can see, new serious cases have risen 10-fold since the beginning of July - from roughly five a day to about 40 over the last week. The overall number of patients has soared too - from 30 to more than 200.
But how many of those people are vaccinated?
The vast majority. Israel has broken out the data in various ways at various times, but throughout July most new patients were vaccinated.
In an effort to play down that reality, Israel has begun to provide data comparing RATES of serious illness in older people who were not vaccinated and those who were. And those show that as of now, unvaccinated people are still becoming seriously ill significantly more frequently than those who aren’t.
But that comparison hides a very big problem.
Israel did an excellent job convincing people over 60 to be vaccinated. Only about 1 person in 15 in that age range didn’t receive at least one dose. Fewer than 1 in 10 is not fully vaccinated.
Why should you care? Because the tiny fraction of older people who are unvaccinated in Israel at this point are almost certainly materially different than the vast majority who are. As far as I know, the Israel government hasn’t broken out the differences. But given the pressure to vaccinate, a significant number of those older unvaccinated people are likely simply too sick to tolerate the vaccine - especially those over 80, where overall vaccination rates are even higher.
But if they are too sick to tolerate the vaccine, they are obviously at much higher risk from Covid than the vaccinate. In other words, ability (and propensity) to be vaccinated is likely a marker for overall health. Researchers know this is true of the influenza vaccine - once they adjust for the fact that older people who get the vaccine are healthier to start than than those who don’t, the advantage the vaccine seems to offer mostly disappears.
So the comparison between vaccinated and unvaccinated isn’t useful.
What is useful is examining the trend among serious illness in older vaccinated people.
And it is terrible. The rate of cases has risen 12-fold IN A MONTH. On July 4th, fewer than 1 older vaccinated person in 100,000 became seriously ill. Today the rate is 10 in 100,000.
Remember - comparing unvaccinated and vaccinated at this point hardly matters. THE DARK GREEN LINE IS THE ONE THAT COUNTS:
And though we cannot be sure what will happen next, it is worth noting that rates of serious illness among the vaccinated are now as high as they were among the unvaccinated only TWO WEEKS AGO. Perhaps that’s why the Israeli government is now predicting a further quadrupling of new serious cases by the end of August:
A quadrupling would represent 800 serious cases, approaching the peak of the winter surge (which was itself probably FUELED by a spike in cases following the first vaccine dose) - and far more than at this time last year.
And remember, Israel CANNOT BLAME THE UNVACCINATED FOR THIS SPIKE - around 85 percent of adults over 30 are fully vaccinated. That’s well above the range experts said would provide herd immunity.
And yet instead of pulling back and at least considering a pause on vaccinations as it digests the disaster of the last month, Israel is going the other way - pushing a third dose on the elderly. Meanwhile the cry to mandate or quasi-mandate vaccinations in the United States is only getting louder.
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What on earth is going on?
TOPICS: Health/Medicine; Science; Society
KEYWORDS: chinavirus; chinavirusvaccine; covid; deltavariant; israel; vaccine
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To: SeekAndFind
The vaccine industry is pure evil and fraudulent
The “immunization “ and “ antibodies “ crap is garbage
Unfortunately it’s over the head of most people and so they by end of this nonsense
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posted on
08/04/2021 10:05:25 AM PDT
by
Truthoverpower
(Arizona !!!! Now the TRUMP TRAIN is getting back on TRACK ! TRUTH! FREEDOM ! LIBERTY! )
To: Truthoverpower
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posted on
08/04/2021 10:06:43 AM PDT
by
Truthoverpower
(Arizona !!!! Now the TRUMP TRAIN is getting back on TRACK ! TRUTH! FREEDOM ! LIBERTY! )
To: SeekAndFind
Interesting. So the charts show that the unvaccinated are falling ill, but the concern here is that the vaccinated are also falling ill, and it appears their rates are increasing. Am I reading this right?
Basically, the vaccines aren’t working.
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posted on
08/04/2021 10:09:17 AM PDT
by
rarestia
(Repeal the 17th Amendment and ratify Article the First to give the power back to the people!)
To: SeekAndFind
When all you have is a hammer... every problem looks like a nail.
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posted on
08/04/2021 10:10:51 AM PDT
by
Skywise
To: SeekAndFind
Tighter lockdowns and triple masking should level things out in two weeks. 🤥💉😷🤡
6
posted on
08/04/2021 10:12:08 AM PDT
by
rktman
(Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this? 😕)
To: rarestia
The chart tracks “Seriously Ill” so you’re seeing why our governments are pushing the vaccine so hard and going back to masking.
The presumption is that those who are vaxx’d don’t get as seriously sick as the unvaxx’d. And the mask is CYA because they’re aware of the same thing - that the vaccines don’t seem as effective against the delta variant.
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posted on
08/04/2021 10:13:02 AM PDT
by
Skywise
To: rarestia
RE: Basically, the vaccines aren’t working.
I would say the vaccines aren’t working. They aren’t working as PROMISED.
They promise is not and has never been you won’t get infected. The promise is the CHANCE of infection are LESS than the unvaccinated.
Also, there are two other promises:
1) Even if you do get infected, your symptoms will be mild to moderate and you will not be hospitalized.
2) You will 100% NOT DIE of Covid.
To: Skywise
But from a statistics perspective, the unvaccinated line is leveling off while the vaccinated line is increasing. Seems the presumption is completely wrong. Perhaps the “vaccine” is lagging the onset of symptoms, but they’re getting the same serious symptoms.
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posted on
08/04/2021 10:14:46 AM PDT
by
rarestia
(Repeal the 17th Amendment and ratify Article the First to give the power back to the people!)
To: rarestia
Pfizer vax for delta don’t seem to work any better then HCQ or Ivermectin.
Well, they work better at one thing. Making a handful of people rich.
10
posted on
08/04/2021 10:16:03 AM PDT
by
Pollard
To: SeekAndFind
One thing that would be really nice, and I’m not dogging anyone out as it’s probably just semantics, but the stuff going in people’s arms are not vaccines.
I really hope and pray that President Trump starts to distance himself from these things and just push that he was the one that allowed the companies to do and try something.
Everyone on the Left said they wouldn’t get the “Trump Vaccine”. Now they’re the ones pushing them the most. Let them eat it.
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posted on
08/04/2021 10:17:40 AM PDT
by
qaz123
To: SeekAndFind
Umm... some statistics are disagreeing with assertion #2, bud.
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posted on
08/04/2021 10:19:44 AM PDT
by
rarestia
(Repeal the 17th Amendment and ratify Article the First to give the power back to the people!)
To: SeekAndFind
They’re not guaranteeing 1 or 2 by this info.
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posted on
08/04/2021 10:20:07 AM PDT
by
Skywise
To: Truthoverpower
The vaccine industry is pure evil and fraudulent It doesn't help that there are doctors that people have and need to trust that are in the tank. For whatever reason, they either openly, or tacitly support the lies made in order to manipulate public perception, the suppression of information and over reaction/ overt power grab by the government and unelected officials.
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posted on
08/04/2021 10:21:49 AM PDT
by
Turbo Pig
('to close with and destroy the enemy")
To: SeekAndFind
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posted on
08/04/2021 10:22:15 AM PDT
by
mewzilla
(Those aren't masks. They're muzzles. )
To: SeekAndFind
The Narrative will soon shift to “the vaccines don’t work.” You will know the shift is about to be on when the media starts giving Trump “credit” for the vaccines.
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posted on
08/04/2021 10:25:20 AM PDT
by
cdcdawg
(It's all so tiresome.)
To: SeekAndFind
I suggest a vaccine bath every day until the vaccine doesn’t work at all. Then we might get this thing over with.
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posted on
08/04/2021 10:25:29 AM PDT
by
Stentor
( )
To: rarestia
I don’t think the unvaccinated line is leveling off - that’s just statistical noise especially with that uptick at the end.
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posted on
08/04/2021 10:27:57 AM PDT
by
Skywise
This isn’t good news. Maybe I missed it along the line, but for how long does a COVID vaxx claim to afford protection? Are some of these vaxxed people actually among the unvaxxed related to a lack of T-lymphocytes and antibodies production?
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posted on
08/04/2021 10:28:36 AM PDT
by
JonPreston
(Q: Never have so many, been so wrong, so often)
To: cdcdawg
The Narrative will soon shift to “the vaccines don’t work.”The "tell" will be when they begin to call it the Trump vaccine.
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posted on
08/04/2021 10:30:30 AM PDT
by
JonPreston
(Q: Never have so many, been so wrong, so often)
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