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Remember, the plural of anecdote is data
1 posted on 08/03/2021 2:44:25 PM PDT by Fractal Trader
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To: ransomnote

ping


2 posted on 08/03/2021 2:44:42 PM PDT by Fractal Trader
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To: Fractal Trader

I have been looking hard for evidence of ADE in the few vaccinated cases I have had, but haven’t seen it.

I presume more information on this case is either available or will be forthcoming.


3 posted on 08/03/2021 2:48:28 PM PDT by Jim Noble (Extremism in the defense of Liberty is no vice)
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"patient had tested positive for COVID-19"

So a patient who died while infected with COVID-19 had RNA from the virus that causes COVID-19 in their body?


4 posted on 08/03/2021 2:49:10 PM PDT by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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To: Fractal Trader

Pfft. Just get the jab.


5 posted on 08/03/2021 2:49:11 PM PDT by rey
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Here's the paper if you want to read it.
6 posted on 08/03/2021 2:52:31 PM PDT by Jim Noble (Extremism in the defense of Liberty is no vice)
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I've thought about the cost of an autopsy within a life insurance policy. Would a life insurance company give a better rate if the results would be shared with other firms they do business with?

The goal being to get the autopsy away from the government crime lab and also have doctors fear their malpractice showing up in patients' autopsies.

8 posted on 08/03/2021 2:57:24 PM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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You read Fr. Z, don’t you?


9 posted on 08/03/2021 2:57:27 PM PDT by scouter (As for me and my household... We will serve the LORD.)
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To: Fractal Trader; gas_dr; Mom MD; Vermont Lt; Mariner

So, here’s the data:

He had anti-spike antibody, but not anti-nucleocapsid (whole virus) antibody. It is not known in what order various antibodies appear after natural infection.

He acquired natural infection in the hospital and died shortly afterwards. It is normal to be viremic early, and the finding of diffuse organ involvement by SARS CoV 2 indicates that this was the case.

The paper does not make clear if his spike antibodies were vaccine-induced or the result of an early response to natural infection. The fact that he was PCR negative on day 18 and positive 6 days later after an exposure may indicate that the infection was early, but IgG takes a while to appear.

Biopsies of the colon indicated ischemic colitis, which is often rapidly fatal.

SO, for the flubros, he probably died WITH COVID, and not OF COVID. He was viremic before he died, consistent with early infection. He was not shown to have target organ (lung) injury from COVID, although they looked for it. Instead, he had multiple lung abscesses, probably from his rapidly dying colon.

His spike antibodies were IgG class, they probably were from his vaccine at 4 weeks out. They may in fact have prevented attachment to lung ACE-2 receptors, which is what they are supposed to do. They certainly did not prevent viremia.

Interesting case. Not conclusive regarding ADE, not impossible but <50% in my opinion.


13 posted on 08/03/2021 3:09:28 PM PDT by Jim Noble (Extremism in the defense of Liberty is no vice)
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Just ran across this. For anyone who feels like geeking out...

Definition of epitopes and antigens recognized by vaccinia specific immune responses: Their conservation in variola virus sequences, and use as a model system to study complex pathogens

Interesting bit, to my mind anyway....

...Indeed, it is apparent that immune evasion by epitope mutation is a strategy utilized by natural viral evolution for RNA virus with genomes of limited dimensions...

CoupFlu clocks in at about 30,000 RNA bases, IIRC, so does CoupFlu qualify...?

18 posted on 08/03/2021 3:19:03 PM PDT by mewzilla (Those aren't masks. They're muzzles. )
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Just a question... Infowars articles used to be banned in FR, when and why did it get lifted?


23 posted on 08/03/2021 3:23:21 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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My 50 yr old son in law died 57 days after his first jab. An autopsy was done because his 17 year old son came home and found him. The coroner did not release the body in time for the funeral, 10 days after his death. To my knowledge they still have not received a coroner’s report. He died June 7 if I remember correctly. This is August 3. Many are anxious to see it. He was ill the entire time after the first injection, going to RediMed type places where they would send him home with a pneumonia diagnosis after the second injection he got so bad he drove himself to ER. Was in hospital 2-3 weeks. He’d had a check up/annual exam in Nov and had no co morbidity. He was working full time, had just moved into a new home within the past year.


31 posted on 08/03/2021 3:37:13 PM PDT by grame (May you know more of the love of God Almighty this day!)
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To: Fractal Trader

I think what we are seeing is antibody dependent enhancement. The mRNA causes cells to make spike protein which can produce antibodies to the virus but also facilitate viral entry into cells via the ACE receptor and exacerbate viral infections whether a new strain of Covid or another virus.
We know PCR testing is unreliable with many false positives. There is no way I’ve seen that a variant can be differentiated from other strains, The delta variant is just a cover story for ADE.


34 posted on 08/03/2021 3:38:46 PM PDT by grumpygresh (Civil disobedience by jury nullification. )
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37 posted on 08/03/2021 3:42:01 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (“Fraud vitiates everything.” )
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I will remain part of the control group, thanks.


41 posted on 08/03/2021 3:47:05 PM PDT by wjcsux (RIP Rush Limbaugh 12 Jan 1951- 17 Feb 2021. We really miss you. 😢)
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46 posted on 08/03/2021 4:23:27 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true, I have no proof, but they're true)
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50 posted on 08/03/2021 4:34:49 PM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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Well sadly infowars is not a reliable source

Want to see this elsewhere


68 posted on 08/03/2021 6:02:45 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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75 posted on 08/03/2021 10:00:13 PM PDT by Conservative4Life (But he that sinneth against me wrongeth his own soul: all they that hate me love death:Proverbs 8:36)
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The same examinations need to be done on multiple jabbed and unjabbed subjects. Comparative data highlights differences, not singular datum.


78 posted on 08/04/2021 6:26:00 AM PDT by MortMan (Shouldn't "palindrome" read the same forward and backward?)
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🔝

Nephilim on the earth


80 posted on 08/07/2021 1:11:24 AM PDT by Varsity Flight ( "War by the prophesies set before you." I Timothy 1:18)
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