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Which is the better long-distance round: 5.56 or 7.62?
wearethemighty.com ^ | June 28, 2021 | Alex Hollings

Posted on 06/29/2021 2:20:50 PM PDT by PROCON

Unless you’re an avid shooter, there tends to be only a handful of ammunition types a person can list off the top of their heads, and even fewer if we’re talking specifically about rifles. Although there’s a long list of projectiles to be fired from long guns, the ones that tend to come to mind for most of us are almost always the same: 5.56 and 7.62, or to be more specific, 5.56×45 vs. 7.62×39.

National militaries all around the world rely on these two forms of ammunition thanks to their range, accuracy, reliability, and lethality, prompting many on the internet to get into long, heated debates about which is the superior round. Of course, as is the case with most things, the truth about which is the “better” round is really based on a number of complicated variables — not the least of which being which weapon system is doing the firing and under what circumstances is the weapon being fired.

This line of thinking is likely why the United States military employs different weapon systems that fire a number of different kinds of rounds. Of course, when most people think of Uncle Sam’s riflemen, they tend to think of the 5.56mm round that has become ubiquitous with the M4 series of rifles that are standard issue throughout the U.S. military. But, a number of sniper platforms, for instance, are actually chambered in 7.62×51 NATO.

The new M27 Infantry Automatic Rifle chambered in 5.56 during the Marine Corps’ Designated Marksman Course (Official Marine Corps photo by Lance Cpl. Levi Schultz)

So if both the 5.56×45 vs. 7.62×39 rounds are commonly employed by national militaries… determining which is the superior long-range round for the average shooter can be a difficult undertaking, and almost certainly will involve a degree of bias (in other words, in some conditions, it may simply come down to preference).

For the sake of brevity, let’s break the comparison down into three categories: power, accuracy, and recoil. Power, for the sake of debate, will address the round’s kinetic energy transfer on target, or how much force is exerted into the body of the bad guy it hits. Accuracy will be a measure of the round’s effective range, and recoil will address how easy it is to settle the weapon back down again once it’s fired.

The NATO 5.56 round was actually invented in the 1970s to address concerns about the previous NATO standard 7.62×51. In an effort to make a more capable battle-round, the 5.56 was developed using a .223 as the basis, resulting in a smaller round that could withstand higher pressures than the old 7.62 NATO rounds nations were using. The new 5.56 may have carried a smaller projectile, but its increased pressure gave it a flatter trajectory than its predecessors, making it easier to aim at greater distances. It was also much lighter, allowing troops to carry more rounds than ever before.

7.62×39 (Left) and 5.56×45 (Right) (WikiMedia Commons)

The smaller rounds also dramatically reduced felt recoil, making it easier to maintain or to quickly regain “sight picture” (or get your target back into your sights) than would have been possible with larger caliber rounds.

The 7.62x39mm round is quite possibly the most used cartridge on the planet, in part because the Soviet AK-47 is so common. These rounds are shorter and fatter than the NATO 5.56, firing off larger projectiles with a devastating degree of kinetic transfer. It’s because of this stopping power that many see the 7.62 as the round of choice when engaging an opponent in body armor. The 7.62x39mm truly was developed as a general-purpose round, limiting its prowess in a sniper fight, however. The larger 7.62 rounds employed in AK-47s come with far more recoil than you’ll find with a 5.56, making it tougher to land a second and third shot with as much accuracy, depending on your platform.

Hard to beat the ol’ 5.56 round. (Official Marine Corps photo by Cpl. Julio McGraw)

So, returning to the metrics of power, accuracy, and recoil, the 7.62 round wins the first category, but the 5.56 takes the second two, making it the apparent winner. However, there are certainly some variables that could make the 7.62 a better option for some shooters. The platform you use and your familiarity with it will always matter when it comes to accuracy within a weapon’s operable range.

When firing an AR chambered in 5.56, and an AK chambered in 7.62, it’s hard not to appreciate the different ideologies that informed their designs. While an AR often feels like a precision weapon, chirping through rounds with very little recoil, the AK feels brutal… like you’re throwing hammers at your enemies and don’t care if any wood, concrete, or even body armor gets in the way. There are good reasons to run each, but for most shooters, the 5.56 round is the better choice for faraway targets.


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: 556; 762; accuracy; banglist; calibers; power; recoil
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To: PROCON

The venerable .30-06. Obviously. :)


61 posted on 06/29/2021 4:20:58 PM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: Openurmind

Well, yes. There are so many variables that one could go on for hours about it. Barrel length, twist, type of powder (fast/slow), Bullet weight, air temperature, phase of the moon. So many things effect a firearm’s performance that it’s difficult to make blanket statements.


62 posted on 06/29/2021 4:22:03 PM PDT by Seruzawa (The political Left is the Garden of Eden of Incompetence - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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To: PROCON

I remember reading the criticism of the 5.56 back in 1976.

Too light a bullet for hunting. Good only for varmints.
Too much flex in the AR rifle. A spread of hits on target was about 6 inches at 100 yds.
Icky Plastic!

The AR rifles often sat on the shelves for months. No one wanted them (except me).

Then Mel Tappan started his Survival Weapons in GUNS AND AMMO MAGAZINE.

Suddenly everyone wanted an AR-15! Even scrapped M-16 rifles were parted out and used in new AR-15s of various quality, some really bad. (Mine, [SGW brand] turned it’s bullets sideways at 50 yds.)

The AR-180 and Mini-14 filled the gap until new AR-15s came off the assembly line.

Now everyone wants one!


63 posted on 06/29/2021 4:25:41 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar ((Democrats have declared us to be THE OBSOLETE MAN in the Twilight Zone.))
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To: griffin; Mariner; Vlad0
Good grief people, talk about going off into the weeds.

The title to the thread is:

Which is the better long-distance round: 5.56 or 7.62?

It isn't; "What's the best military caliber for long distances" or "What round do you prefer to shoot at long distances?"

The author used his metrics and came to his conclusion.

Reading comprehension is important!

64 posted on 06/29/2021 4:27:29 PM PDT by PROCON (Our rights do not come from government, therefore they cannot take them away.)
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To: PROCON

The title simply posited two different diameter rounds.

After diameter, all that is left is shape, speed and weight.

Whatever .223 will do, .308 will do better.


65 posted on 06/29/2021 4:33:08 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner; SkyDancer
“For long range stuff I like my Savage .22-250 with 4,000fps rounds. “

I believe SkyDancer was the author of that statement.

66 posted on 06/29/2021 4:34:36 PM PDT by BipolarBob (Remember the good ol days when we worried about being bombed by the Russian President but not ours?)
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To: SkyDancer
445 SuperMagnum is a handgun round. US snipers use a variety of rounds. .50BMG is the big one.

Did your time in Oz influence your choice of the.22-250? I saw that the Brit and Aussie militaries had adopted it for urban counter-sniper use, minimizing ricochets and over-penetration.

67 posted on 06/29/2021 4:40:15 PM PDT by gundog (It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen. )
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To: PROCON

Are these two the only choices?


68 posted on 06/29/2021 4:41:23 PM PDT by OKSooner ("I for one welcome our new Chinese Communist overlords.")
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To: PROCON

Just another thread designed to go off topic immediately LOL

If there was an apocalypse and I had to gather all the numbnuts in my neighborhood and hand them a rifle, I would give each of them an AK.

Real world people, real world.


69 posted on 06/29/2021 4:43:35 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there..)
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To: OKSooner
Are these two the only choices?

For this thread, yes.

If you choose another caliber you are a bad FReeper like all the rest who went off on a tangent! 😆😎

70 posted on 06/29/2021 4:45:34 PM PDT by PROCON (Our rights do not come from government, therefore they cannot take them away.)
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To: Disambiguator

SOCOM and DHS have adopted the 6.5 Creedmoor for some applications. I’d look for its use to expand. The shelves were heavy with it, locally, after the common military rounds disappeared in the current ammo drought.


71 posted on 06/29/2021 4:48:37 PM PDT by gundog (It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen. )
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To: A Cyrenian

It’s for fibbies.


72 posted on 06/29/2021 4:48:50 PM PDT by Big Red Badger (Be Still and Know that I Am God. Rev 19)
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To: OKSooner

Don’t be a D B Cooper.


73 posted on 06/29/2021 4:49:55 PM PDT by BipolarBob (Remember the good ol days when we worried about being bombed by the Russian President but not ours?)
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To: PROCON
Of course there are other variables.

And other calibers. Has anyone tried the 6.5 Grendel? Asking for a friend.

74 posted on 06/29/2021 4:50:25 PM PDT by Sirius Lee (They intend to murder us. Prep if you want to live and live like you are prepping for eternal life)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

So we’re going to your house and you’re handing out Aks? Count me in.


75 posted on 06/29/2021 4:50:46 PM PDT by BipolarBob (Remember the good ol days when we worried about being bombed by the Russian President but not ours?)
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Author picked the wrong 7.62


76 posted on 06/29/2021 4:58:26 PM PDT by Rio
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To: Openurmind

SKS barrel is 20”. I’ve shot at clay at 400 plus yards with an SKS and had the bullet penetrate about 1/2 its length.


77 posted on 06/29/2021 4:58:45 PM PDT by gundog (It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen. )
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To: Seruzawa

Absolutely... “phase of the moon” Really? lol


78 posted on 06/29/2021 4:59:41 PM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: Openurmind

Effects the shooter. Hard to hit a target when you are morphing into a werewolf.


79 posted on 06/29/2021 5:01:43 PM PDT by Seruzawa (The political Left is the Garden of Eden of Incompetence - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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To: PROCON

They both have their purpose. Saying that one is better than the other is silly.


80 posted on 06/29/2021 5:06:44 PM PDT by throwthebumsout
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