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Oracle Engineer Who Helped Design CDC Coronavirus Tracking System Dies from COVID-19 After Getting the Vaccine
GP ^ | June 13, 2021 | Jim Hoft

Posted on 06/13/2021 7:56:02 AM PDT by White Lives Matter

The Oracle engineer who created the APEX System and then worked with the CDC to develop a COVID tracking system died late last month from coronavirus.

Joel Kallman announced he took the vaccine back in March.

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TOPICS: Government; Health/Medicine; Science; Society
KEYWORDS: ccpvirus; cdc; chinavirusvaccine; coronavirus; coupfluvaccines; covid; covid19; fauxccine; flamingvaxxofdeath; joelkallman; mortality; oracle; rare; sideeffects; thevirtuevax; unexpected; vaccine; vaccinebingo; vaccineroulette; vaccines; vacterminated; virtuevax
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To: freeandfreezing

Good explanation. But where in the body that the RNA that causes cells to express the spike protein is not well understood. It can land anywhere. And expressed spike proteins can survive the demise of their host cells (shearing effect).

Pfizer et al hand-waved the migration issue. Pfizer used non-clinical studies of another mRNA to convince the FDA that the SARS2 RNA would stay put. It doesn’t stay put (in the shoulder muscles). It travels.

It is turtles all the way down.


81 posted on 06/13/2021 4:22:20 PM PDT by 13foxtrot
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To: White Lives Matter

In church today it was announced that one of the members is in the hospital, and most likely won’t survive. He has a paralyzed diaphragm (never heard of such a thing before). Assume he is on a machine to breathe. They said he had had a vaccine but didn’t say when. Also didn’t say if this issue ever reverses or not.


82 posted on 06/13/2021 4:25:03 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam (Faith, not fear. Faith, not faintheartedness.)
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To: House Atreides

“I suggest you read proper, scientific articles about it.”

And you are the man among men to decree what is “proper” and “scientific”, I suppose.


83 posted on 06/13/2021 4:43:15 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam (Faith, not fear. Faith, not faintheartedness.)
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To: 13foxtrot

Thank you for that reply.

You bring up an interesting point, too. I expect the original virus had an affinity for cells with the receptor that it attached to, like deep in the lungs.

The mRNA can enter and “infect” any cell it is exposed to, I presume.

So, variation in results could be from variation of the location and type of cells affected by the mRNA. Or, so it seems.


84 posted on 06/13/2021 4:44:05 PM PDT by Empire_of_Liberty
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To: grey_whiskers

Yes, survival at age 81 is of paramount importance, and the vaccine is giving me a chance to live life again without fearing miserable death from covid isolated in a plastic tent in a hospital.


85 posted on 06/13/2021 5:08:17 PM PDT by entropy12 (President Trump saved Millions of lives with his warp speed push of vaccines, including my spouse.)
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To: MayflowerMadam

Nothing unusual. 2 MILLION Americans were dying every year before the China virus, and more millions will die after covid is eradicated.


86 posted on 06/13/2021 5:11:05 PM PDT by entropy12 (President Trump saved Millions of lives with his warp speed push of vaccines, including my spouse.)
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To: entropy12

the vaccine is giving me a chance to live life again without fearing miserable death from covid isolated in a plastic tent in a hospital


So does Ivermectin.


87 posted on 06/13/2021 5:11:35 PM PDT by TTFX ( )
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To: 13foxtrot

How slow is that turtle moving? 14 weeks after my 2nd shot of Moderna vaccine, I have felt zero bad effects from the jabs.
Looks like the turtle is half dead.


88 posted on 06/13/2021 5:13:09 PM PDT by entropy12 (President Trump saved Millions of lives with his warp speed push of vaccines, including my spouse.)
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To: TTFX

So? I have nothing against ivermectin. Swallow those pills to your hearts content. I just don’t know what is wrong by me preferring the 2 jabs of Moderna. I have zero problems of any kind at age 81, 14 weeks after the 2nd jab.


89 posted on 06/13/2021 5:15:16 PM PDT by entropy12 (President Trump saved Millions of lives with his warp speed push of vaccines, including my spouse.)
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To: 13foxtrot

What harm would a stray protein with a similar structure in one part to the spike on a corona virus be likely to cause?


90 posted on 06/13/2021 5:16:22 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: entropy12

Judt mentioning it so people know the options with known long term effects.


91 posted on 06/13/2021 5:17:08 PM PDT by TTFX ( )
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To: entropy12

I have zero problems of any kind at age 81, 14 weeks after the 2nd jab.


Why the urge to tell everyone? Aren’t there more enjoyable things to do now that you no longer have that burden?


92 posted on 06/13/2021 5:19:56 PM PDT by TTFX ( )
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To: Empire_of_Liberty

The 1/2 CC of mRNA vaccine jabbed into me 14 weeks ago has yet to reach any cells in my 81 year old body and not even a minor problem so far. AM I just lucky or may be they gave me a placebo? I really don’t care if it was a placebo, since I have the vaccine docs to get me on to my favorite thing to do, book a cruise in September.


93 posted on 06/13/2021 5:20:27 PM PDT by entropy12 (President Trump saved Millions of lives with his warp speed push of vaccines, including my spouse.)
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To: TTFX

I just want the people still on side lines to know, this vaccine is less harmful to even a 81 year old than a bad cup of coffee.

You can preach ivermectin, I will post my ACTUAL AND REAL experience with the vaccines.


94 posted on 06/13/2021 5:22:44 PM PDT by entropy12 (President Trump saved Millions of lives with his warp speed push of vaccines, including my spouse.)
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To: TTFX

Excuse me, vaccination is only 6 months old program. How do you know long term effects when “long term” is not here yet?

Are you Nostradamus junior by any chance who can see the future?


95 posted on 06/13/2021 5:24:39 PM PDT by entropy12 (President Trump saved Millions of lives with his warp speed push of vaccines, including my spouse.)
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To: White Lives Matter

I would really like to know the numbers of the people who have had the shot and yet still got the Red China Virus. I would really love to know.


96 posted on 06/13/2021 5:25:05 PM PDT by RetiredArmy (Free Will. GOD gives you the choice I accept or reject Him! Choose Him. It depends on you.)
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To: entropy12

I have zero problems of any kind at age 81, 14 weeks after the 2nd jab.
= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
I have zero problems of any kind at age 82, DIDN’T ‘hunker down’, DIDN’T ‘mask up’ DIDN’T get shot.

so, in actuality we have proven NOTHING and basically just ‘preaching to the choir’

Your method ‘works’ for you, mine for me - have never knowingly taken the flu shot at least since my USN days and spent a lot of time in the Pacific and quinine tablets were devoured....Who knows???


97 posted on 06/13/2021 5:27:42 PM PDT by xrmusn (6/98 "Message to GOP "GO FUnd YOURSELF")
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To: freeandfreezing

“What harm would a stray protein with a similar structure in one part to the spike on a corona virus be likely to cause?”

The spike protein is a pathogen by-itself.

https://www.salk.edu/news-release/the-novel-coronavirus-spike-protein-plays-additional-key-role-in-illness/


98 posted on 06/13/2021 5:29:57 PM PDT by 13foxtrot
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To: entropy12

What do you mean that it has yet to reach any cells?


99 posted on 06/13/2021 5:34:21 PM PDT by Empire_of_Liberty
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To: Gen.Blather

I am posting my actual and real experience after getting 2 jabs of Moderna vaccines 14 weeks back. I can assure you I am as energetic now as I was before the jabs. No blood clots, no shoulder pain, and continuing my daily routine at the gym. It is amazing how beneficial daily exercise is for a 81 year old.

Why nobody told me this in my mid-50’s when I had several physical issues? Now all issues have long disappeared, and my goal is to post a video of my exercise routine at age 100, barring cancer or auto accident.


100 posted on 06/13/2021 5:36:56 PM PDT by entropy12 (President Trump saved Millions of lives with his warp speed push of vaccines, including my spouse.)
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