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US Capitol Rioters Mount Predictable Defense In Court; Guess Who They’re Blaming
Red State ^ | 05/30/2021 | Jeff Charles

Posted on 05/30/2021 9:01:00 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

Some of the individuals facing charges for the Jan. 6 riots at the U.S. Capitol building are employing a bizarre but predictable defense in the hopes of drumming up sympathy for their plight. At least three defendants claim they participated in the assault on the Capitol building because they were misled by misinformation spread by – you guessed it – former President Donald Trump.

The Associated Press reported:

Lawyers for at least three defendants charged in connection with the violent siege tell The Associated Press that they will blame election misinformation and conspiracy theories, much of it pushed by then-President Donald Trump, for misleading their clients. The attorneys say those who spread that misinformation bear as much responsibility for the violence as do those who participated in the actual breach of the Capitol.

Defendant Anthony Antonio indicated that he had misgivings about having listened to Trump when he claimed the election was stolen. “I kind of sound like an idiot now saying it, but my faith was in him.”

Antonio said he wasn’t into politics, but became more interested when boredom resulting from COVID-19 lockdowns led him to begin consuming right-leaning news and social media. “I think they did a great job of convincing people,” he added.

U.S. District Judge Amy Berman Jackson wrote a decision on Wednesday denying the release of a man who allegedly threatened to kill House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA). In her decision, she wrote:

“Six months later, the canard that the election was stolen is being repeated daily on major news outlets and from the corridors of power in state and federal government, not to mention in the near-daily fulminations of the former president.”

At least one other defendant plans to make misinformation a key component of his defense. Albert Watkins, the attorney representing Jacob Chansley, also known as the QAnon shaman, compared his experience to brainwashing or being enthralled by a cult. The lawyer claims that “falsehood and incendiary rhetoric” eventually “overwhelmed his client’s ability to discern reality,” according to the Associated Press.

“He is not crazy,” Watkins said. “The people who fell in love with (cult leader) Jim Jones and went down to Guyana, they had husbands and wives and lives. And then they drank the Kool-Aid.”

However, those blaming their actions on Trump and conservative media might be disappointed. Christopher Slobogin, director of Vanderbilt Law School’s Criminal Justice Program, told the AP that he is doubtful this defense will work. “It’s not an argument I’ve seen win,” he said.

Slobogin indicated that the only hope such a defense could have would be if believing a conspiracy theory is used as evidence that the individual is suffering a mental illness that would preclude them from the law’s presumption of competence.

“I’m not blaming defense attorneys for bringing this up,” he told the AP. “You pull out all the stops and make all the arguments you can make.”

He concluded: ”But just because you have a fixed, false belief that the election was stolen doesn’t mean you can storm the Capitol.”

Lawyers representing Bruno Joseph Cua, a 19-year-old who allegedly shoved a police officer outside the Senate chamber, argued that his extremist rhetoric before and after the riot were also the result of social media. Attorney Jonathan Jeffress claimed his client was “parroting what he heard and saw on social media” and that he “did not come up with these ideas on his own; he was fed them.”

The day after the riot, Cua published a post on Parler in which he wrote: “The tree of liberty often has to be watered from the blood of tyrants. And the tree is thirsty.”

Cua’s attorney portrayed his comments as a “bluster” and that he regrets his actions.

Antonio, 27, had worked as a solar panel salesman in Chicago when the coronavirus pandemic shut down his place of employment. At that time, he and his roommates started watching Fox News almost all day. He began to share right-leaning content on social media.

The AP reported:

Court records portray Antonio as aggressive and belligerent. According to FBI reports, he threw a water bottle at a Capitol police officer who was being dragged down the building’s steps, destroyed office furniture and was captured on police body cameras yelling “You want war? We got war. 1776 all over again” at officers.

Antonio, who wore a patch for the far-right anti-government militia group The Three Percenters, is charged with five counts, including violent entry and disorderly conduct on Capitol grounds and obstruction of law enforcement during civil disorder.

Joseph Hurley, the lawyer representing Antonio explained that he does not intend to use his client’s belief in election fraud claims as a defense, but to explain why he did what he did.

“You can catch this disease,” Hurley said to the AP. Misinformation, he said, “is not a defense. It’s not. But it will be brought up to say: This is why he was here. The reason he was there is because he was a dumbass and believed what he heard on Fox News.”

Regardless of what one believes about the outcome of the 2020 presidential election, using President Trump and conservative media as a scapegoat is absurd on its face. However, as Slobogan argued, the attorneys representing these defendants must attempt to use any argument they can.

But, what is more noteworthy is how the activist media will likely use these young men in their ongoing effort to convince the American public that the riot was Trump’s fault and that right-leaning media is radicalizing people. To put it simply, media activists might just try feigning sympathy for these young men and casting them as victims of the MAGA cult that is secretly trying to overthrow the country, by stirring people up in a way that leads to more political violence. After losing the battle over the Jan. 6 commission, they’ll have to try something else, right?



TOPICS: Conspiracy; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: blame; capitolriot; courtdefense; icantthinkformyself; qanon; trump

1 posted on 05/30/2021 9:01:00 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Surprise!!! How convenient. We need to see these losers Social Media Pages prior to this event. Almost Guaranteed any such examination would reveal Extreme Leftism. No. I am not Clairvoyant. Just an observer of current events.


2 posted on 05/30/2021 9:06:51 PM PDT by ocrp1982 ( Bibicly)
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To: SeekAndFind

They just think it will appeal to the prosecutors. It is not a valid criminal defense.


3 posted on 05/30/2021 9:13:47 PM PDT by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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So, were these the FBI-Antifa instigators / Crisis actors?

Or were they just regular people beaten and frightened into testifying the Department of JustUs want them to.


4 posted on 05/30/2021 9:15:25 PM PDT by LegendHasIt
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To: SeekAndFind

They must be the BLM / Antifa infiltrators we’ve heard about.


5 posted on 05/30/2021 9:16:19 PM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (No masks necessary? I guess voting by mail will be eliminated for 2022 and 2024. Yippee!)
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To: SeekAndFind
"Hitler lied to me! I wouldn't otherwise have agreed to be the Kommandant of that Death Camp!"

(Not sincerely attempting to establish an equivalency between Jan. 6 and 1933-45, of course!)

The old "I vas only following ordahs!"-defense - except that here, it's "suggestions," "promptings," or "inferences" rather than "orders."

Regards,

6 posted on 05/30/2021 9:46:59 PM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: SeekAndFind

This is why the protesters are being kept in so,Italy confinement 23 hours a day. To break them and have them beg for relief. Testify against Trump and will give you food. Testify against Trump and we may let you out of jail someday


7 posted on 05/30/2021 9:47:44 PM PDT by tinamina (I hope that arrogant jerk never gets another job on TV.)
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To: ocrp1982

This is the silliest defense I’ve ever seen that’s like saying I watched a bunch of bank robbery movies and the actors made the planning look so easy so I tried it and it didn’t work the way they said and it is their fault for making me believe robbing a bank was so easy


8 posted on 05/30/2021 9:48:02 PM PDT by Lod881019
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To: LegendHasIt
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You hit all the categories that I presumed.
Could be FBI undercover agent provocateurs, or maybe normal Americans that have been beaten down by the DOJ Stasi to give the desired response. Hell, some of these people have been in solitary confinement for nearly 5 months. And for what?! Voicing their disagreement about the massive voting theft of November 3, 2020 (a day that will live in infamy).

9 posted on 05/30/2021 9:49:20 PM PDT by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: Williams

Did President Trump tell you to do X, Y, and Z? No. We’re done. Or at least it should be done, right?

When you have defense attorney’s, defendants and the prosecution all working in concert with each other, to try and blame their behavior on what they perceived he may have “meant”, the trials could get interesting.


10 posted on 05/30/2021 10:16:30 PM PDT by qaz123
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To: SeekAndFind

So was Anthony Antonio one of those few actually doing bad stuff? Or is it another of the deranged overcharges?


11 posted on 05/30/2021 10:18:43 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: SeekAndFind

Lets be fair here: DEMOCRAT LAWYERS ARE PRESENTING THIS DEFENSE. They snagged a few clients and will attempt to propagandize through the courts.


12 posted on 05/31/2021 1:44:29 AM PDT by Cyclops08
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To: SeekAndFind

Disgusting!


13 posted on 05/31/2021 1:57:07 AM PDT by Flaming Conservative ((Pray without ceasing))
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To: Cyclops08

BINGO!!! ALL PART OF THE PLAN!!


14 posted on 05/31/2021 3:17:17 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: tinamina

And we thought Dems were against torture


15 posted on 05/31/2021 4:11:15 AM PDT by griswold3 (NBA/ Plumlee Ball. = poor entertainment value while insulting the audience gets you broke )
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To: SeekAndFind

I’m amazed that a sitting judge would call the election theft a “canard.”

An exemplar that judges are not all-seeing or all-wise.


16 posted on 05/31/2021 6:36:24 AM PDT by sauropod (Chance favors the prepared mind.)
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To: LegendHasIt

Or were they just regular people beaten and frightened into testifying the Department of JustUs want them to.


What happens in the privacy of solitary confinement stays in solitary


17 posted on 05/31/2021 6:56:42 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: SeekAndFind

I wonder if keeping them in isolation without bail for months on end has anything to do with their cooperation. Murderers who attack guards in prison don’t even get that treatment.


18 posted on 05/31/2021 7:52:50 AM PDT by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes.)
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