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GOP-Controlled States Won* By Biden Need To Adopt The Maine/Nebraska System For Allocating Electoral Votes
Ace of Spades ^ | May 19, 2021 | Buck Thorckmorton

Posted on 05/19/2021 9:35:04 AM PDT by absalom01

Republicans have solid majorities in the statehouses of Arizona, Georgia, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and Michigan, and they also hold at least half of the Congressional seats in each of those states, but all 73 electoral votes from those states went to Joe Biden in 2020. It’s time for these states to adopt the Maine/Nebraska system (“Congressional District System”) of allocating electoral votes, wherein the statewide winner only receives two electoral votes, while the remaining electoral votes are allocated to the candidate who wins each individual congressional district.

Assuming that Congressional districts held by Republicans voted for Trump in those five states, and if those states had used the Congressional District System, then Trump would have picked up 34 more electoral votes, which would have made a 68-vote swing in the final vote differential. The actual 2020 electoral college vote of 306 (Biden) to 232 (Trump) would then become 272 (Biden) to 266 (Trump.) That would have left the GOP just 3 votes shy of a 269-269 tie. Those 3 votes might already be headed the GOP’s way with re-apportionment based on the 2020 census.

I am not going to re-hash all the ballot fraud and irregularities from 2020 - they have been well-documented elsewhere - but when Pennsylvania Democrats are successful in casting multiple ballots for voters born in the 1800s, you can rest assured that there are a heck of a lot more fraudulent ballots that were cast in the name of people who hadn’t yet reached their 120th birthday.

Despite the GOP’s control of their statehouses, the only time since the 1980s that a Republican presidential candidate won in Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, or Michigan was Trump in 2016. Narrowly. And the Democrat political machines will never let it happen again. The chicanery in the wee hours of election night in Philadelphia, Milwaukee, and Detroit proved it.

In Georgia, with the GOP having recently lost not only the statewide presidential balloting, but also both Senate seats, it is doubtful that Georgia Republicans can ever expect to consistently beat the margin of fraud in the future. Better to settle for 8 electoral votes than none, and if the GOP were to actually win the statewide vote, they would get 10 of the 14 electoral votes.

Arizona and Georgia currently have GOP governors, so there is nothing to stop them from immediately going to the Congressional District System. Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and Michigan currently have Democrat governors, but there is a good chance they could get GOP governors in the upcoming 2022 GOP wave. They would have plenty of time to change their electoral system before the 2024 election.

Aside from swinging some electoral votes from Democrats to Republicans, the other main benefit of making the switch would be to disincentivize ballot fraud in those states’ big cities. Philadelphia may be able to produce an infinite number of fraudulent ballots, but that wouldn’t mean a thing in its deep-blue districts, other than padding the margin for the two electoral votes chosen statewide. Would Democrats in Philly even be motivated to commit so much ballot fraud if it only affected two electoral votes rather than 20 electoral votes? I doubt it. That alone could help swing those states from the Dem column to the GOP.

But what about conservative principles? Weren’t we all talking about the sanctity of the current electoral college system after 2016, when Democrats wanted to ditch it and go with a national popular vote?

First off, by going to the Congressional District System in certain states, there is nothing that requires the Constitution to be amended – it is fully legal right now. Nebraska and Maine already do it. By contrast, the national popular vote would require a constitutional amendment, and the election laws that Democrat politicians and judges changed by decree in 2020 were done by illegal methods. I am not going to sit still and be a principled loser in the face of ballot fraud and illegal last-minute voting changes. Going to the Congressional District System is a legal way to fight back against the election irregularities that are being used against us.

More importantly, my principle is to win. My principle is that the 68-vote swing from those 34 electoral votes is worth pursuing. This is a legal way to do it. And you know what, if Georgia can stop the election fraud in Fulton County and return to being bright-red, it can simply go back to winner-take-all with its electoral votes.

New Hampshire also has an all-GOP state government right now, and it could do the same with its two Congressional districts. In a GOP-wave, other states such as Virginia and Nevada could also temporarily have an all-GOP state government. It would behoove them to quickly adopt the Congressional District System, because the “get out the vote effort” in those states will never allow a GOP presidential candidate to win statewide there.

What about Texas, Florida, and Ohio? Winner take all, baby. Because I’m principled about winning. And if Texas starts going purple with all the left-wing tech bros that Governor Abbott is recruiting from California, then Texas should change its system to ensure that the Dems don’t get all of Texas’ electoral votes.

Moving to the Congressional District System in certain states is not only legal and constitutional, but it will help the GOP win, and greatly negate the power of Democrat ballot fraud.


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I generally get irritated with links to blogs (even Ace), but this seemed interesting, and discussed something that I was not personally aware of.

Highlights the importance of holding our GOP controlled red state governors and legislotors feet to the fire, and offered a way to fight back against the coup that I had not previously considered.

1 posted on 05/19/2021 9:35:04 AM PDT by absalom01
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To: absalom01

Bttt


2 posted on 05/19/2021 9:38:10 AM PDT by Eagles6 (Welcome to the Matrix circa 1984.)
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To: absalom01

This seems like a good idea. Thanks for posting.
BTTT


3 posted on 05/19/2021 9:40:22 AM PDT by T Ruth (Mohammedanism shall be destroyed.)
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To: absalom01

One problem with this is it assumes Republicans will lose those states in future elections. Wisconsin and Michigan are trending increasingly Red. They might be solid Republican states in a few years and we won’t want to split the results.

It would be a more useful strategy in AZ and GA, which are demographically getting worse and worse for us each year.


4 posted on 05/19/2021 9:44:12 AM PDT by Renfrew
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To: Renfrew

The longer the border stays open and the more we re-elect Assistant Democrats who vote for amnesty, the less any state will be trending our way.


5 posted on 05/19/2021 9:47:30 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizens Are Born Here of Citizen Parents)(Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: absalom01

DOESN’T MATTER WHAT ‘SYSTEM’ THEY ADOPT OR NOT. THE DEMS WILL WIN EVERY ELECTION FROM HERE ON................


6 posted on 05/19/2021 9:57:33 AM PDT by Red Badger (Jesus said there is no marriage in Heaven. That's why they call it Heaven.....................)
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To: absalom01
I am in favor of this system of allocation, but only if it is in all 50 states.

Yes, it would take a Amendment to the Constitution.

7 posted on 05/19/2021 9:58:09 AM PDT by Michael.SF. (Never do anything illegal, when you are doing something illegal.)
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To: absalom01
He's cherry picking results for his argument. The question you'd have to ask is what if other states that Trump won adopted the same syatem? How many EC votes would Trump have lost?

The EC generally helps Republicans, and we should oppoae anything that changes the winner tak all formula...although I wouldn't mind if heavily Dem states went by district.

8 posted on 05/19/2021 9:59:52 AM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: absalom01

I read a study that recent elections would have been about the same. I favor this because it is fair. GOP voices in CA, NY, IL, etc wouldn’t be shut out any more. Winner take all is not mandated by the Constitution and to my mind makes no sense.


9 posted on 05/19/2021 10:00:59 AM PDT by j.havenfarm (20 years on Free Republic, 12/10/20! More than 3700 replies and still not shutting up!)
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To: absalom01

100%.

Someone did an analysis here on FR of the 2012 election. If that rule has been in place nationwide, Hussein would’ve been a one termer.


10 posted on 05/19/2021 10:03:40 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

I think his argument is solid.

Demon Rats steal votes in the big cities and thus end up winning whole slates of electors.

Do it district by district and the red parts of every state get an elector.


11 posted on 05/19/2021 10:06:59 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: absalom01

If it were universal, then the electorial votes would be similar to the number of House seats. Pubs would still be behind.


12 posted on 05/19/2021 10:09:18 AM PDT by Fido969 ( Sc)
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

That’s a good point.

Blue states would never give up their monolithic power, but I think what the author is trying to argue is that this would be a way to isolate the damage caused by the blue cities in purple states.

Would have to check the math to see how this would actually work.


13 posted on 05/19/2021 10:11:58 AM PDT by absalom01 (You should do your duty in all things. You cannot do more, and you should never wish to do less.)
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To: absalom01

I’ve long advocated for this type of system.

If it had been in place in 2012, Obama would have lost


14 posted on 05/19/2021 10:12:29 AM PDT by Az Joe (FREE CHAUVIN!)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

Well, that’s something that some of us figured out in California back in 1993 with the campaign to certify proposition 187.

We won at the ballot box, and were defeated by dirty tricks in court, as a direct result of changing demographics and voting patterns at the state level.

But you’re certainly not wrong.


15 posted on 05/19/2021 10:14:04 AM PDT by absalom01 (You should do your duty in all things. You cannot do more, and you should never wish to do less.)
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To: T Ruth

Bad idea. We are not a democracy, we are a republic. If we step towards democracy, then large populated states dominate the flyover country and a huge portion of the country loses any representation. This is as bad as taking Senatorial elections away from state legislatures and putting them to popular vote in a state where now the major (rat infested) cities rule over all the rural counties.

One way of putting it is like this: I farm, you eat. Dont lose sight of that.


16 posted on 05/19/2021 10:15:01 AM PDT by Magnum44 (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic...)
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To: Michael.SF.

The Constitution leaves the method of allocation of their electors up to the individual states.

Do not need a constitutional amendment. Each state decides for themselves.


17 posted on 05/19/2021 10:17:26 AM PDT by Az Joe (FREE CHAUVIN!)
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To: Az Joe

Joe, Yes, each state can decide for themselves. But I would favor this method only if it were applicable to all 50 states. For that to happen, it would require an Amendment.


18 posted on 05/19/2021 10:25:49 AM PDT by Michael.SF. (Never do anything illegal, when you are doing something illegal.)
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To: Michael.SF.

We should play their game.


19 posted on 05/19/2021 10:27:56 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (`)
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To: Fido969

You overlook that each state also gets 1 vote per each Senator and those votes would go to the winner of the popular vote in each state. Right now, that would favor the Republicans.


20 posted on 05/19/2021 10:28:04 AM PDT by Michael.SF. (Never do anything illegal, when you are doing something illegal.)
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