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Slow-Motion Suicide of the West
American Greatness ^ | 24 Apr2021 | Roger Kimball

Posted on 04/25/2021 10:34:18 AM PDT by Rummyfan

I have been thinking a good deal recently about Arnold Toynbee’s much-quoted observation that “Civilizations die from suicide, not by murder.” As an historical proposition, I’d say that it was like the story of the curate’s breakfast egg. “I’m afraid you’ve got a bad egg, Mr. Jones!” “Oh no, my Lord, I assure you!” the curate replied. “Parts of it are excellent!”

And yet we all see the pertinence of Toynbee’s point. While there are, as a matter of historical fact, plenty of civilizations that succumb to invasion, occupation, and subjugation, there are also many that wither from within from a failure of self-confidence, of (for the Bergsonians out there) élan vital, of what your philosophy graduate student likes to call thumos: spirit, gumption, “heart,” manliness.

The fact that no one can even speak of “manliness” today without looking over his shoulder these days is an index that thumos is on the endangered species list (along, as it happens, with sperm counts in the Western world). Why this should be is a fraught question—something whose answer is “overdetermined” as our Freudian friends like to say.

ajor reason, I submit, is that the dominant ideology of the modern West is an ideology of suicide, what the philosopher James Burnham identified as “liberalism.”

It goes without saying that when it comes to terms being “overdetermined,” “liberalism” is right up at the top. The word has its root in līber, free, which is why it used to be said that tolerance was a defining characteristic of liberalism. Edmund Burke was a liberal in this sense, as was Matthew Arnold, David Hume, James Madison, and other founding fathers.

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1 posted on 04/25/2021 10:34:18 AM PDT by Rummyfan
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To: Rummyfan

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2 posted on 04/25/2021 10:35:10 AM PDT by GOP Poet (Super cool you can change your tag line EVERYTIME you post!! :D. (Small things make me happy))
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To: Rummyfan

Israel must become center stage as this realm comes to an end.


3 posted on 04/25/2021 10:42:54 AM PDT by Salvavida
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To: Rummyfan

Only a liberal would call it “slow motion” at this point.


4 posted on 04/25/2021 10:46:03 AM PDT by cmj328 (We live here.)
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To: cmj328

I’d say the cultural suicide is locked in Overdrive.
The hope is to cut off or disable the power sources.


5 posted on 04/25/2021 10:53:28 AM PDT by lee martell (')
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Brings me back to Camp David/Jimmy Carter. Recognizing Israel was bigger than Began and Sadat. History would not let them fail. Can we do the same with the Norks/Chicoms? Then there’s Iran. A recognized Israel will take care of it.


6 posted on 04/25/2021 10:56:53 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (`)
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To: Salvavida

There is certainly a long-held Jewish religious belief that when Edom (Western Civilization) rises, Jacob falls. And when Edom falls, Jacob rises.


7 posted on 04/25/2021 10:58:46 AM PDT by jjotto (Blessed are You LORD, who crushes enemies and subdues the wicked.)
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To: lee martell

But it is not the total vote count that counts but who each state voted for. What was critical was that Republican states, Arizona, Georgia, Pennsylvania and maybe Michigan, gave their secretaries of state the flexibility to approve mail in ballots and other election count irregularities. The Republican legislatures stood on the sideline and watched. So really the election must have been a deal cut beforehand by the Republicans with the Democrats is my guess. If it is suicide, it is consensual. Now those same state legislatures are passing election reform to cover themselves and not get thrown out of office. But they already cut a deal with the Democrats to cede the election to them. What other interpretation is there? But then the election was actually illegitimate? What we have witnessed is how elections have been pre-negotiated between the parties all along in most of US history. We are just seeing it as it really is for the first time. So we have the virtue of clear sightedness from which we can perhaps find future freedom? The sub title of this article is “conditions of freedom”. Clear sightedness is a condition of freedom.


8 posted on 04/25/2021 11:18:51 AM PDT by WLusvardi (Drudge Fudges)
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To: lee martell

Only a liberal would say it’s in overdrive.

The suicide is complete, the nation is dead, and we are left with the memories.


9 posted on 04/25/2021 11:19:07 AM PDT by cmj328 (We live here.)
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Only a liberal would call every body else’s opinion Liberal.


10 posted on 04/25/2021 11:27:15 AM PDT by lee martell (')
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To: Rummyfan

The suicide of the West was accelerated by China and its spread of Covid. The Bidens chose their partners wisely.


11 posted on 04/25/2021 11:31:17 AM PDT by 353FMG
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To: Rummyfan

Look to boa constrictors to find the real threat to humanity. They live for 30 years and have no natural enemies.


12 posted on 04/25/2021 11:35:42 AM PDT by Rapscallion (The illegal seizure of the government provides no mandate. America on moral life support.)
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I’m a lot more optimistic

Why?

For the simple reason

Socialist thought makes one : judgmental ; mean; condescending ; irritable and unhappy

Faith based reasoning leads one to be

balanced happy humble and productive

Why?

The former philosophy is about being a taker

Christ centered philosophy makes you a giver

Buddhists stated very clearly - the only way to be unhappy is to be selfish

“Me. “ Centered.

As if “you “ exist ! Hee hee


13 posted on 04/25/2021 11:51:19 AM PDT by Truthoverpower (Fraud !!! Now we’re off the TRUMP TRAIN and on the Swamp express to communist hell !! TRUTH! )
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SLOW MOTION?? It’s at WARP SPEED!


14 posted on 04/25/2021 12:06:05 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Rummyfan

The left knows what it’s doing. It’s managing to end the USA as we knew it a little at a time, totally bypassing collective consciousness, sneaking past our awareness, until one day we wake up and say “How did that happen?”

Breakdown of the family, gay acceptance, beating Christianity to a pulp, creating dependence on government, high taxes, making White a capital crime, trans acceptance, changing the vocabulary with pronouns, tolerance of islamic terrorism, elimination of freedom of thought, control of the mind through public schools and colleges, criminalizing thoughts of God. And many more.

Meanwhile, the public turns on its TV to find out what’s going on, and receives its daily dose of How to Think.


15 posted on 04/25/2021 1:16:48 PM PDT by I want the USA back (Voltaire: To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.)
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To: Rummyfan

If this is slow I’d hate to see fast.


16 posted on 04/25/2021 2:45:45 PM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (I went to bed on November 3rd 2020 and woke up in 1984.)
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