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Battleship USS Wisconsin: She Fought In Three Wars (And Could Fight Again)
19FortyFive ^ | 4/14/2021 | Peter Suciu

Posted on 04/14/2021 6:04:10 AM PDT by Onthebrink

She was briefly decommissioned, and then reactivated for the Korean War, and provided naval gunfire support duties against enemy bunkers, command posts, and artillery positions. Wisconsin earned five battle stars for her World War II service, and one for the Korean War.

When she joined the United States Navy reserve fleet – the “Mothball Fleet” – in 1958, it was the first time the United States Navy was without an active battleship since 1895.

However, that wasn’t the end of the line for USS Wisconsin.

President Ronald Reagan called for a 600-ship U.S. Navy in the 1980s, and as a result, the Iowa-class battleships were reactivated and upgraded with new combat systems that replaced many of the ships’ smaller five-inch guns with a launcher for Harpoon anti-ship missiles, thirty-two Tomahawk cruise missiles and four Phalanx close-in weapon systems (CIWS). Initially equipped with 40mm anti-aircraft guns, during the Cold War those were replaced with missiles, electronic-warfare suites, and Phalanx anti-missile Gatling gun systems.

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TOPICS: Government; History; Military/Veterans; Politics
KEYWORDS: battleships; blogcrap; blogpimp; navy; usnavy; worldwarii
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1 posted on 04/14/2021 6:04:10 AM PDT by Onthebrink
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Giver her a nuclear power plant, pull off two of the big turrets and replace then with VLS weaponry, manufacture remaining new ammunition’s for her main battery, add modern secondary batteries and CIWS....send her up and down the Taiwan Straight nonstop.


2 posted on 04/14/2021 6:08:20 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire. Or both.)
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I suspect it would cost much to bring them back as fighting ships. Then the crews are quite large. I don't see that ever happening.

I have visited the New Jersey. It's a darned interesting tour.

3 posted on 04/14/2021 6:10:16 AM PDT by stevem
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Never happen. Propulsion systems are too old. When Reagan reactivated them there were still some Korea vets and shipyard guys around who had worked on the Iowa’s. Those guys are long gone now. Plus the Navy isn’t going to train up & crew a ship that size when they are at the same time retiring the Ticonderoga’s.


4 posted on 04/14/2021 6:11:34 AM PDT by Tallguy
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To: BenLurkin
>>Giver her a nuclear power plant, pull off two of the big turrets and replace then with VLS weaponry, manufacture remaining new ammunition’s for her main battery, add modern secondary batteries and CIWS....send her up and down the Taiwan Straight nonstop.<<

Sounds like they already did that sans nukes. She is a floating armament platform:

From the article:

President Ronald Reagan called for a 600-ship U.S. Navy in the 1980s, and as a result, the Iowa-class battleships were reactivated and upgraded with new combat systems that replaced many of the ships’ smaller five-inch guns with a launcher for Harpoon anti-ship missiles, thirty-two Tomahawk cruise missiles and four Phalanx close-in weapon systems (CIWS). Initially equipped with 40mm anti-aircraft guns, during the Cold War those were replaced with missiles, electronic-warfare suites, and Phalanx anti-missile Gatling gun systems.

5 posted on 04/14/2021 6:14:07 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (No matter what, resist and stop the agenda of blow bidet and hairass the whore)
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To: Onthebrink

Given the reality of modern technology which includes but is not limited to pinpoint surveillance and positioning, lethal stealthy drones launched from land, planes, cruise missiles and submarines as well as stealthy modern long range missiles, the era of surface combatants is over. Few if any would survive against even a moderately technologically competent opponent. The brave young sailors would never see or be able to fight back against the people who killed them. Nor would the “battleship” admirals who sent them to their watery graves ever be held accountable.


6 posted on 04/14/2021 6:14:14 AM PDT by allendale
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To: Onthebrink

Wishful thinking but wasted talk and funds. The ship is too old and the refurbish to re-commission would only benefit the shipyard.


7 posted on 04/14/2021 6:18:09 AM PDT by Reno89519 (Buy American, Hire American! End All Worker Visa Programs. Replace Visa Workers w/ American Wo)
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At a former employer, we were asked to consult on replacing the decks on the New Jersey. We got a brief tour after our consulting part. I brought home a small piece of the original Admiral’s deck, a small balcony where Halsey and a few other Admirals would have stepped.


8 posted on 04/14/2021 6:21:56 AM PDT by cyclotic (Live your life in such a way that they hate you as much as they hated Rush Limbaugh)
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To: BenLurkin

Not going to happen!!!


9 posted on 04/14/2021 6:26:15 AM PDT by DarthVader (Not by speeches & majority decisions will the great issues th the day be decided but by Blood & Iron)
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To: BenLurkin
Giver her a nuclear power plant, pull off two of the big turrets and replace then with VLS weaponry, manufacture remaining new ammunition’s for her main battery, add modern secondary batteries and CIWS....send her up and down the Taiwan Straight nonstop.

May as well also make the decks airtight and launch it into space...


10 posted on 04/14/2021 6:27:27 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: allendale

Not really there is a Large Surface Combatant Program going on that is quite robust. Something along the lines of the Chinese Type 055.


11 posted on 04/14/2021 6:28:49 AM PDT by DarthVader (Not by speeches & majority decisions will the great issues th the day be decided but by Blood & Iron)
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To: Onthebrink

Nancy might get the money for it and have the Navy park it in the Potomac to protect the Capital!


12 posted on 04/14/2021 6:30:19 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives our fortunes and our sacred honor." )
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To: allendale
The value of the Iowa Class ships was in their littoral artillery. In this, they are far superior to their intended replacements.
13 posted on 04/14/2021 6:35:42 AM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: Onthebrink

Iowa and Missouri were used during Desert Storm.


14 posted on 04/14/2021 6:40:09 AM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: Onthebrink

The Iowa’s are awesome, effective, beautiful museum pieces. But the cost of refitting them with new energy and tech systems is not worth it.


15 posted on 04/14/2021 6:44:57 AM PDT by lurk ( )
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I’m from Norfolk and worked in shipyards there during high school and college during the late 70s. Not on anything so large as BB-64 USS Wisconsin but ships from the same era (LST, LSD, AO and AR). Been on the tour of the “Big Whiskey” multiple times. No way it could set to sea again. It’s bolted to the pier


16 posted on 04/14/2021 6:57:28 AM PDT by Locomotive Breath
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I don’t know about that but do dig the fact that the Wisconsin is built like a....well...like a battleship. She could take a licking and keep on ticking, potentially packing enough surface to surface and surface to air firepower to seriously hamper Red Chinese attempt to put forces ashore in Taiwan.

But, yes, I know, it will never happen.


17 posted on 04/14/2021 6:57:44 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire. Or both.)
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Raytheon has been developing ramjet missiles which are brought up to ramjet operating speed (supersonic) by being fired from cannon.

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/33425/raytheon-is-developing-a-ramjet-artillery-round-for-the-armys-new-super-howitzers

I would imaging a ramjet missile fired from a 16-inch gun could be made pretty powerful.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vIPNElDkns


18 posted on 04/14/2021 7:00:03 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 ("Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities." -- Voltaire)
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To: allendale

Did you see the footage of the crowd of people taking down a drone with laser pointers. The footage from the nearby police helicopter was stunning. A ship and its crew could be vulnerable even to this behavior.


19 posted on 04/14/2021 7:25:35 AM PDT by one guy in new jersey
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To: Onthebrink
Her 24" guns fired the shells, on the left side of the scale, 24 miles!

This display is in the Nauticus museum next to her berth in Norfolk, VA

20 posted on 04/14/2021 7:36:03 AM PDT by outofsalt (If history teaches us anything, it's that history rarely teaches anything.)
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