Posted on 03/24/2021 11:37:34 PM PDT by PAUL09
Humans understood astronomy 40000 years ago, European caves provide proof
According to a scientific study, 40,000-year-old cave paintings indicate the use of complex astronomy.
According to experts, the ancient paintings that were believed to be symbols of prehistoric animals are actually ancient star maps.
Early cave art reveals that people in the last ice age had a detailed knowledge of the night sky. They were hardly different from us today in terms of intellect. Animal symbols represent star constellations in the night sky.
A new scientific study revealed that humans had a sophisticated knowledge of stars and constellations more than 40,000 years ago. Ancient star maps
Scientists have revealed that ancient humans controlled the passage of time by watching how stars change positions in the sky.
The ancient works of art, found in many places in Europe, are not simply representations of wild animals, as previously thought.
Instead, animal symbols represent constellations of stars in the night sky. They are used to represent dates, marking events like asteroid collisions, explains a new study published by the University of Edinburgh.
Dont laugh...we would be doing same if there was no history of civilization to fall back on...I would guess there are many people who would die very quickly if they had to fend for themselves in the outdoors...
I want some of their powers.
they lived in caves and threw spears at wild animals.
Baby steps: living in caves beat living under a bush and they were able to keep the fire lit in the rain.
They had to invent their weaponry, including the ingenious atlatyl.
It was only later with nuanced development that they discovered Walmart...
Religion. Ever hear about any new Civilization that did not have any religion?
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What and how we think of religion was not how others in the past saw or thought of “gods”. Ancient Egyptians has no word for religion. The “gods” were symbols of various aspects of life/nature because they thought symbolically, unlike present day where we think logically. It is not really possible to say whether “gods” gave the basis for a law or that a law provided for how a god was portrayed.
The problem lies in how we apply current thinking (logic) to how others in the deep past lived. Its a sort of culture shock which is not helped by specialists like anthropologist, archeologists etc who are driven by peer review, grants et al to arrive at consensus thinking, which only occasionally and rarely admits new ideas, rather seeks to impose an agenda on the problems at hand.
We still think of Ancient Egypt the same way it was formulated by classical Greek historians with a few embellishments from the 19th Century, despite a host of new findings which suggest that the Greeks were almost totally wrong; therefore, much of the new findings are buried, not admitted, relegated to museum basements, or destroyed - all to keep the consensus thinking alive.
And so our image of of what is labeled religion in the past becomes heavily distorted, and no interpretation of a symbol or word is allowed to contradict the prevailing ‘scientific’ insight
“”Look up the description of tools and weapons found on Otzi the iceman who they found frozen in ice from 5,300 years ago. Could you have made any of these yourself?””
I can! Made a complete set of his tools for a local college, even down to the woven cordage scabbard for his flint knife which I also made. All made from local material here in West Texas with the exception of his copper axe which I made from scrap copper. Once a year I do a flint knapping demo for my cousins local history class at the college.
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interesting.
Hunter/gatherers settled down, stayed in one place and started farming/raising animals.
Ah. I always thought it would be great to learn flintknapping, but like so many things, never got around to it. I have the time, just not the effort or the patience. I saw a show about that copper axe, by the way. Finding scrap copper is one thing, but can you smelt it from copper ore? It’s amazing how they were able to figure it out back then. Let alone move on to bronze or steel.
Here is the explanation directly from their website.
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It also made specialization possible. Since food was less scarce, people could contemplate the stars and other things.
As intelligent as us today, and they lived in caves and threw spears at wild animals. Got it.
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The upland hunters yes, everybody else lived in cities, now hundreds of feet below sea level, or like the Westerner culture that preceded Old Kingdom Egypt lie buried beneath hundreds of feet of Nile Delta mud. Or leave only erratic and scattered fragments like the Map of the Creator.
Also many constructions or tools were repurposed and now are lost or of unknown usage - many the Giza plateau stones were used in buildings in Cairo, succeeding pharaohs routinely scratched off their predecessors names and writings etc.
As far as throwing spears at wild animals - understand that such an undertaking is nothing an average modern human from Western Civ would or could undertake, and the chances of bringing the animal down are in direct proportion to the survivability of the hunter?
Remember the period of time we are talking about was the time of mega fauna - smilodons, cave bears, dire wolves among others. More often, the human was the hunted. Hunting is not easy, taking a great bit of knowledge of nature and the prey’s habits to accomplish and survive.
That is how farmers and commercial fishermen operate - both groups are usually highly educated, many holding degrees from prestigious universities ... are they any less intelligent then a person with a GED sitting in an office all day staring at a keyboard and computer screen?
Knowledge of the stars movements tracks seasons and prey availability timing, also times of asteroid falling like the Taurids which were not always as benign as they are today. There has to be a way to preserve and communicate that knowledge to succeeding generations, if the community is to survive.
Yes, of course. Farmers could grow more food than just to feed themselves, which meant other people were now free to trade for food instead of hunting/gathering it for themselves. So trade skills came into use. Pottery, weaving, smithing, etc.
I suspect the smelting of copper ore like many of the things we have today were discovered by accident. In Egypt they were using copper and bronze saws to slab large pieces of flint. Many of the Giza blades were from flint slabs and hand ground to get a good contour. Once that was accomplished they were carefully pressure flaked into some of the most beautiful flint blades known.
I’ve got some great pic’s of these blades but due to FR’s requiring a third party hosting I’m unable to share.
Well, maybe discovered by accident but the skill involved didn’t allow much room for error. One misstep and you’d end up with slag-filled copper ingot that would break on first use. These skills must have been passed on carefully, from one mentor to another, before the invention of writing.
No doubt about that but in North America it’s first use was from raw copper nuggets found in the Great lakes area. They were hammered out to make a variety of tools. Thus the Copper Culture of the Great Lakes region.
And they didn't need to throw spears at the tame animals...they could be led off to the slaughter not knowing what was about to happen to them.
Civilization has always been touch and go. It has dissolved more than once in history. How many times it happened and then sputtered out we will never know.
According to experts, the ancient paintings that were believed to be symbols of prehistoric animals are actually ancient star maps.
I knew some in Hollywood were getting old, but
prehistoric maps to the star’s homes is a bit much...
Thanks Redcitizen.
The Oldest Lunar Calendars and Earliest Constellations have been identified in cave art found in France and Germany. The astronomer-priests of these late Upper Cultures understood mathematical sets, and the interplay between the moon annual cycle, ecliptic, solstice and seasonal changes on earth.
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