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Why Are So Many Americans Stockpiling Guns, Silver And Food Right Now?
Economic Collapse Blog ^ | 2/3/21 | Michael Snyder

Posted on 02/10/2021 1:31:03 PM PST by Roman_War_Criminal

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To: crosdaddy

Fighting off big violent mobs?

Being in a structure, house etc, is that last place you’d want to be if and when the violent mobs come, regardless of how well armed up you are.

Don’t believe me, just look at what these small swat teams, made up of only a dozen or so people, do those inside the structures. Trapped like rats come to mind. The big losers are ALWAYS those hunkered down in structures. They’re trapped.


241 posted on 02/11/2021 10:34:13 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

Here is our initial discussion:

I wrote:
Surprisingly, you will still have to pay that debt during a collapse.

You wrote:
How do ya pay when the financial institutions are closed, no Internet, no gas etc? Will they be expected to write a check out, and walk 30 miles to deliver it to an empty building?
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And that is not what the situation was in various countries that had experienced a collapse. Debts were still owed and had to be paid. Just like what happened in 2008 here-only worse.

Banks shut down temporarily in these countries. But they still had banks and you were not allowed to withdraw all your money and you still had to pay your rent, or mortgage or whatever. And the surviving banks acquired the assets(loans due to the bank) of the other banks.

And in places like Venezuela, and Argentina, there were still banks. And there was an exchange of silver and other valuables to get the currency dictated by the government in order to buy what little was left to buy in stores.

And the hyperinflation was such that the prices of the merchandise was changing so fast it was different by the time you went back to pay for it.

And if government still allows you to own property, you still have to pay the taxes and if you don’t have something like silver or gold to protect against inflation, you may not be able to.

To be clear. Shelter, Water, Food, Medicines, and guns and ammo are all important. If possible, the shelter needs to be protected-and old people especially aren’t likely to be able to bug out to the woods and survive.

So just leave it at that. You go do whatever the heck you want based on whatever you want.

All I tried to do was point out that it was not totally realistic to think that an economic collapse would mean you get out of debt free.


242 posted on 02/11/2021 10:47:43 AM PST by greeneyes ( Moderation In Pursuit of Justice is NO Virtue--LET FREEDOM RING)
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To: ladyjane

These things can be used to barter for toilet paper!
Toilet paper is nice but it’s not at the top of the list as an essential.
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🤣 For some reason that reminded me of Marcella. She used to talk about keeping all her old phone books in case she ran out of toilet paper. And she bought those flushable wipes because they took up less space than Toilet Paper. We had some good times reading her stories.


243 posted on 02/11/2021 10:53:24 AM PST by greeneyes ( Moderation In Pursuit of Justice is NO Virtue--LET FREEDOM RING)
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To: greeneyes
Debts were still owed and had to be paid.

LOL! You go ahead and hang on to that belief. But the fact is, in national big event/total collapse, those who feel they're owed will be lucky to survive.☺

If the mobs or one side ever wins and this government collapses, feel free to run around tell everyone they still owe money, then try to collect money they don't even have.☺ Good luck!

244 posted on 02/11/2021 10:55:30 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: albie

If the silver is pure enough, it can be used to make colloidal silver.

There is a lot of debate over whether or not colloidal silver works as an antibiotic when taken internally. But there is no debate over the fact that it works as an antiseptic/disinfectant when used externally.

2 pieces of 99.999% pure silver can give you many gallons of high-powered disinfectant. I’d call that valuable.


245 posted on 02/11/2021 10:56:59 AM PST by Ellendra (A single lie on our side does more damage than a thousand lies on their side.)
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To: dragnet2

I bet you don’t have a pot to piss in 😂 ...


246 posted on 02/11/2021 11:26:38 AM PST by snoringbear (,W,E.oGovernment is the Pimp, )
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To: dragnet2

I’m just telling you what happened in other countries.

So you think that you are just going to live in you home without paying off the mortgage, and eventually no one is going to come along and evict you?

Well maybe the USA will be an exception to the history of what has happened in other places. You go right ahead and believe whatever you want.


247 posted on 02/11/2021 11:27:04 AM PST by greeneyes ( Moderation In Pursuit of Justice is NO Virtue--LET FREEDOM RING)
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To: greeneyes

you=your


248 posted on 02/11/2021 11:27:25 AM PST by greeneyes ( Moderation In Pursuit of Justice is NO Virtue--LET FREEDOM RING)
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To: snoringbear

You don’t like my responses, so you attack me personally. How leftist of you! ☺


249 posted on 02/11/2021 11:31:38 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: greeneyes
I’m just telling you what happened in other countries.

Oh, oither countries where the people are totally unarmed?

250 posted on 02/11/2021 11:33:04 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

Hey, you started it. If you can’t run with the big dogs best stay on the porch 😉....


251 posted on 02/11/2021 11:43:35 AM PST by snoringbear (,W,E.oGovernment is the Pimp, )
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To: dragnet2

You really think that there are not people who have guns in other countries? SMH lots of illegal ownership according to what I read.


252 posted on 02/11/2021 11:48:16 AM PST by greeneyes ( Moderation In Pursuit of Justice is NO Virtue--LET FREEDOM RING)
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To: sergeantdave
People also need to be aware that your toilet won’t flush without water.

That means capturing and removing human waste to a suitable location. Once a day, every day.


I made something for my farm that's kind of a cross between a sawdust toilet and an incinerator. I wasn't confident that a composting toilet or outhouse would control potential contagions well enough.

You can find instruction online for making a sawdust toilet. My variation uses two steel 5-gallon buckets instead of plastic ones. The rims tend to be a different size than the plastic ones, so if you're using one of those snap-on toilet seats you may need to adapt it. The dry matter used can be anything burnable, not just sawdust. I personally use peat moss because I can get it easily, and a bag lasts a long time. If I couldn't get peat moss I'd probably use sawdust, straw, chaff, or dry crumbled leaves.

When one bucket is full, switch the seat over to the empty one, and cover the full one with a metal lid. I have one metal lid with vent holes and one without. If I can't do the burn right away, I use the unvented lid. The vented one is to release the smoke. There's a rocket stove set up just for those buckets. Important safety tip: Make sure the lid is loose enough that if the ventilation holes get clogged, the lid will come off instead of building up pressure!

Start a fire in the rocket stove, and keep it going until there's no more smoke coming out of the bucket. At that point, the contents should be sterile charcoal. If, when moving the bucket you notice a smell, then you might need to cook it longer. Charcoal should have no odor. Once cooled, charcoal makes an awesome soil amendment, deodorizer, or a whole list of other uses.

I know that probably seems elaborate for some people, but my farm has no house and no septic yet, so this was really one of the better options. I figure it's good practice in case of SHTF.
253 posted on 02/11/2021 12:01:06 PM PST by Ellendra (A single lie on our side does more damage than a thousand lies on their side.)
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To: dragnet2

You can’t eat gold and can’t harvest food with it.

Ammo and canning supplies and a garden will get you much further.


254 posted on 02/11/2021 12:11:16 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: greeneyes

C’mon. Gun ownership is nothing like it is in the USA. This isn’t even debatable.


255 posted on 02/11/2021 1:19:16 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: snoringbear
I bet you don’t have a pot to piss in

No I didn't attack you personally in such a juvenile manner as you did above. That's why you didn't quote me attacking you. And if ya don't think I can't, "Run with the big dogs" as you suggested, keep attacking and just try me.☺

256 posted on 02/11/2021 1:23:53 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

Stop beating the dead horse. Go bother someone else.

Don’t be prepared to pay any debts. Continue to believe that you have a get out of debt free card. If you are right or wrong it ain’t no skin off my nose.


257 posted on 02/11/2021 1:27:33 PM PST by greeneyes ( Moderation In Pursuit of Justice is NO Virtue--LET FREEDOM RING)
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To: greeneyes

Stop beating a dead horse? I am not responding to myself. If you can’t handle an exchange, involving pertinent legitimate comments, I suggest you stay off the Internet.


258 posted on 02/11/2021 1:33:24 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

Right back atcha.


259 posted on 02/11/2021 1:48:23 PM PST by greeneyes ( Moderation In Pursuit of Justice is NO Virtue--LET FREEDOM RING)
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To: Ellendra

Very rustic, but....does the trick!

Here are some more permanent fixture ideas.....

https://morningchores.com/outhouse-plans/


260 posted on 02/11/2021 1:57:12 PM PST by Jane Long (America, Bless God....blessed be the Nation 🙏🏻🇺🇸)
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