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Why wasn’t rampant fraud in Ohio’s federal pandemic jobless claims revealed earlier?
Cleveland.com ^ | January 31, 2021 | Editorial Board

Posted on 01/31/2021 9:10:41 AM PST by CheshireTheCat

Lt. Gov. Jon Husted recently revealed -- in answer to a reporter’s question -- that of 1.4 million Pandemic Unemployment Assistance (PUA) claims filed in Ohio, more than half had been flagged as potentially fraudulent. Brazen crooks even filed claims – unpaid – in the names of Gov. Mike DeWine, first lady Fran DeWine and Husted.

That’s unacceptable -- not just the fraud, but the silence.

How long were Husted et al. going to sit on this? Until up to 700,000 Ohioans woke up one day to discover that someone else fraudulently spent their PUA dollars -- and that they owed taxes on benefits they never received?

And could some of this relate to Ohio’s own mismanagement of its overwhelmed jobless claims system, mismanagement that’s harmed countless Ohioans who weren’t able to get benefits to which they were entitled, or couldn’t figure out how to dispute state demands for repayment of supposedly fraudulent benefits they felt were rightfully received?

Those problems -- which the state is now proposing to address by bringing in executive overseers from the private sector -- also have been blamed on the state jobless system’s creaking, 17-year-old computer system. Yes, it should have been upgraded long ago, and upgrades are now in the works....

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More than half flagged as potentially problematic! WTF?!!

Either the flagging system is off, or them thar is some a whole lotta fraud in dem hills.

1 posted on 01/31/2021 9:10:41 AM PST by CheshireTheCat
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To: Lowell1775

For your consideration.


2 posted on 01/31/2021 9:11:07 AM PST by CheshireTheCat ("Forgetting pain is convenient.Remembering it agonizing.But recovering truth is worth the suffering")
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To: CheshireTheCat

When you have a nation living on centrally-issued, fiat, paper money and the massive government debt and spending it creates - you will get fraud everywhere.


3 posted on 01/31/2021 9:13:36 AM PST by PGR88
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To: CheshireTheCat

Dewine, his wife and the lt gov all had fake claims drawn in their names. Now I hear Amy Acton wants to run for Rob Portman’s senate seat as a Dem.
Ohio is a mess.


4 posted on 01/31/2021 9:15:56 AM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: CheshireTheCat

“Why wasn’t rampant fraud in Ohio’s federal pandemic jobless claims revealed earlier?”

Come man! Even before Covid-19 lot Government workers were already working 20 hours a week. Had to cut that to 10 hours a week to be safe.


5 posted on 01/31/2021 9:19:49 AM PST by antidemoncrat
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To: CheshireTheCat

Well, well. Yes, there is a LOT of fraud in every one of them dem hills.


6 posted on 01/31/2021 9:20:13 AM PST by Robert A Cook PE ( I can only donate monthly, but the radical ABCNNBCBS does it every hour on their news.)
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To: CheshireTheCat
Fake president, fake money, fake economy, fake stock market, fake jobs, fake pandemic, fake climate, fake wars, fake news, fake friends, fake boobies, fake country.


7 posted on 01/31/2021 9:22:14 AM PST by ponygirl (An Appeal to Heaven )
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To: CheshireTheCat

The fraud is nationwide and absolutely horrendous, Billions and Billions of our tax dollars have been stolen as a result of the China Virus.. 😱. Sorry, Joe, it’s true.


8 posted on 01/31/2021 9:28:51 AM PST by Shady (WHO MURDERED ASHLI BABBITT? )
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To: CheshireTheCat

Why indeed. It’s a real head scratcher.


9 posted on 01/31/2021 9:30:17 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (I'm sorry the Q thing didn't work out. We were wrong about that.)
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To: CheshireTheCat

There is more unemployment fraud news from Washington state.

From memory, we lost about $570 million in fraud.

The woman who ran the department basically refused to cooperate with the investigation, which did not start in earnest until AFTER the 2020 election.

Turns out this woman, and her husband, are major Democratic Party donors.

Joe Biden admires her so much he just appointed her to an executive position in the U.S. Department of Labor!


10 posted on 01/31/2021 9:38:20 AM PST by zeestephen
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To: CheshireTheCat

The State of Washington lost hundreds of millions due to fake unemployment claims last year, many from Nigeria. The brain dead idiot who was in charge of that office, Employment Security Department (ESD) Commissioner Suzi LeVine said she’s leaving her state government job at the end of January to take a post with the new Biden administration. Sounds about right.


11 posted on 01/31/2021 9:42:04 AM PST by dainbramaged (Windage and Elevation)
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To: zeestephen

GMTA, or something like that.


12 posted on 01/31/2021 9:43:19 AM PST by dainbramaged (Windage and Elevation)
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To: CheshireTheCat
That's nothing, CA is saying they've been ripped off and robbed of about 14 BILLION and now they're saying another 20 BILLION in paid befits are suspicious!!!!

And now the state of CA is attempting to blame Trump for this.

The state of CA did not even include a brief phone call to the claimants as part of the eligibility criteria.

Not even a 1-minute call to claimants to ensure this would not turn into a fraud free for all.

These lying AH's can't even run UI without epic fraud and chaos.

13 posted on 01/31/2021 10:06:56 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: CheshireTheCat

My theory on large scale financial fails in government is simple. It is easier to steal from the public treasury when the there is chaos then it is when everything works as it suppose to.

Time after time we hear of a government program misplaces or not record the spending of millions of taxpayer money and the excuse is always mistakes were made and we will get to the bottom of it, but they never do. Why? Because the only mistake made is somebody noticed the money was missing.

Few get caught and even fewer ever go to jail.


14 posted on 01/31/2021 10:07:19 AM PST by CIB-173RDABN (I am not an expert in anything, and my opinion is just that, an opinion. I may be wrong.)
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To: dainbramaged

Why not? She has earned the grifter creds that are a predicate for a position within the Bidet regime.


15 posted on 01/31/2021 10:12:08 AM PST by rockrr ( Everything is different now...)
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To: ponygirl

LMAO!! But real truth!


16 posted on 01/31/2021 11:19:58 AM PST by SgtHooper (If you remember the 60's, YOU WEREN'T THERE!)
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To: CheshireTheCat

I don’t understand how there’s so much fraud in these systems. UI claims, at least in Texas, has all my income information, by quarter, in the system when I first applied. They know your employer, and it’s not difficult to cross-reference each UI claim to the employer. PLUS, Any employer that had more than one person furloughed/laid off, filled out a multi-person form that lists each employee thus affected. It should be amazingly SIMPLE to eliminate most of this fraud simply by checking the employee claim against the employer. No investigation, just a cursory check would flag most of these claims during application, before anything was even paid out!


17 posted on 02/01/2021 11:11:39 AM PST by Svartalfiar
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Why wasn’t rampant fraud in Ohio’s federal pandemic jobless claims revealed earlier?
Cleveland.com ^ | January 31, 2021 | Editorial Board
Posted on 1/31/2021, 12:10:41 PM by CheshireTheCat


18 posted on 02/01/2021 1:27:49 PM PST by Lowell1775
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To: Svartalfiar

Here in Ohio they didn’t have a system in place for the PUA.

They had to build it, from scratch, in a hurry. Applicants were to self certify as they were/are self-employed.

In my case, yes I have case...the system asked for the 1040 AND the Schedule C. Due to my entity type these items were combined to generate an incorrect base year. Which led to an incorrect unemployment payment amount. Nearly 20% of the folks filing for PUA fell into this trap and need to payback their overpayments to the tune of THOUSANDS of dollars. In my case they didn’t do the redetermination until Dec. 18th, when the error was finally caught. Keep in mind, the PUA window closed a week later. My account clearly shows nearly $7,000 still available to me, but I now have a massive overpayment to deal with and can no longer access funds. Was this fraud or systemic error that the State now wants to call fraud? The CARES 2 act allows for waiver of systemic error and hardship waiver of overpayments.

It is important to keep in mind much of the fraud is coming through the PUA system, which is the self-employed. Errors were bound to happen, but to take 35 weeks to catch it? That’s system failure. In my case I was working and caring for my clients throughout the pandemic as they are essential workers, the little I was making actually overroad the redetermination amount! I would have been better to close my entire business rather than take care of the client base.

Ex. If I made more than $200 per wk, I was ineligible. The initial determination was for double that amount. I reported all my work and who knew walking 3 dogs a day M-F would put me over my base. Well, it did and now I owe nearly all of my PUA back to the state. If I would have closed completely I would have been receiving $3200 per month initially for 16 weeks.

Now I owe nearly all of it back.


19 posted on 02/01/2021 2:01:05 PM PST by EBH (Repent, Accept, Proclaim )
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To: CheshireTheCat

My husband had someone open a claim in his name. Can’t ever get anyone on the phone. Sent certified letters, heard nothing yet.


20 posted on 02/02/2021 5:52:02 AM PST by muggs
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