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Why The U.S. Military Loves Heckler & Koch’s MK23 .45 ACP
19FortyFive ^ | 1/14/2021 | Caleb Larson

Posted on 01/14/2021 7:29:27 AM PST by Onthebrink

The best defense is a good offense: a role the Heckler & Koch MK23 filled with ease.

The story of the MK23 begins in 1991, with the Offensive Handgun Weapons Program. The United States Special Operations Command (USSOCOM) wanted to find an accurate, reliable sidearm that could provide more stopping power than the newly-adopted Beretta M9 pistol. Though the M9 was not an ineffective sidearm, its 9mm pistol ammunition afforded considerably less stopping power than the M1911A1 it replaced.

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TOPICS: Government; History; Military/Veterans; Politics
KEYWORDS: banglist; blogpimp; gun; guns; military; onthebrink; petersuicu; usmilitary
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To: Onthebrink

If you don’t kill the man, you’ve at least deafened him.


21 posted on 01/14/2021 9:05:39 AM PST by lurk ( )
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To: Onthebrink
My first gun was an H&K VP9. Great pistol.


22 posted on 01/14/2021 9:08:40 AM PST by COBOL2Java (The Biden Family Crime Syndicate)
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To: Uncle Miltie

We have a pair of Kimbers and absolutely love them. I understand they had some quality issues in the past but ours have been utterly reliable.

The only ammo they don’t like is lead wadcutters.

But IMO there’s no good reason to put those through a semi auto anyway. Conversely there’s absolutely no reason the US military can’t field a dead solid reliable 1911 platform that eats 230 grain FMJ all day long.

We use hand loaded 200 grain Hornady JHP ammo through ours. Thousands of rounds fired and the only issue has been the occasional FTE usually due to the ammo, not the gun.

L


23 posted on 01/14/2021 9:09:00 AM PST by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is. )
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To: Lurker

I had a hunch.

Thanks for confirmation.


24 posted on 01/14/2021 9:10:38 AM PST by Uncle Miltie (Praise the Lord, and pass the ammunition!)
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To: Uncle Miltie

They ain’t cheap. But quality has a price.

Glad we could help.

Good luck.

L


25 posted on 01/14/2021 9:13:35 AM PST by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is. )
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To: TexasGator

The person holding it in this picture must be either rather small, or that pistol grip is really large. Just from looking at this photo, I’ll stick to the size of the grip on a 1911


26 posted on 01/14/2021 9:37:36 AM PST by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: Notthemomma

I’m an HnK bigot. They’re the only handguns I own, and I own every handgun caliber HnK makes. Absolutely the best sidearm money can buy.


27 posted on 01/14/2021 9:45:42 AM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: GreyFriar

“The person holding it in this picture must be either rather small, or that pistol grip is really large.”

I think both. Double-stacked 45’s make for large grip.


28 posted on 01/14/2021 9:49:20 AM PST by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: Onthebrink

Don’t know what this dude is talking about. We hated that gun. Way to big and heavy.

Most at that time we’re still holding onto their 1911s or transitioning to the M9. The M92 sucked so it was off to the Sig.


29 posted on 01/14/2021 10:02:29 AM PST by Mathews (It's all gravy, baby!)
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To: TexasGator

Double-stacked 45’ — I had considered that possibility as the reason for the large grip. But is it as unwieldly at it looks to hold and fire?


30 posted on 01/14/2021 10:21:03 AM PST by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: GreyFriar

“I had considered that possibility as the reason for the large grip.”

In the article. 12 rounds.


31 posted on 01/14/2021 11:24:35 AM PST by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: Lurker

“The only ammo they don’t like is lead wadcutters.”

I wouldn’t put wadcutters in any autoloader ...


32 posted on 01/14/2021 11:27:39 AM PST by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: TexasGator

Nor would I. But I wanted a complete shake out of the pistols. We fed them every weight and bullet style we could find. For us the most accurate are the 200 grain Hornady XTP moving right around 850 fps.

Mild recoil, very controllable, and sufficiently accurate for self defense purposes. My wife loves them.

L


33 posted on 01/14/2021 11:57:53 AM PST by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is. )
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To: Lurker

“The only ammo they don’t like is lead wadcutters.”

Perhaps I need to shake out my car to see if running 750 hp on 87 octane is ok.


34 posted on 01/14/2021 12:23:40 PM PST by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: TexasGator

Thanks, I missed that.


35 posted on 01/14/2021 4:06:05 PM PST by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: Onthebrink
No HK thread would be complete without the following:

HK. Because you suck. And we hate you.

(Excerpt: "And by the way, check out our new HK45. We decided that humans don’t need to release the magazine with their thumbs. If you were a really manly teutonic operator, you would be able to reach the controls. Plus we’ve fired 100,000,000 rounds through one with zero malfunctions, and that was while it was buried in a lake of molten lava, on the moon. If you don’t believe us, it is because you aren’t a real operator." ;>)

36 posted on 01/15/2021 2:25:55 PM PST by Who is John Galt? (Eff "Crazy Joe" and the stolen horse he rode in on...)
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To: TexasGator
Perfect gun for Andre the Giant.


37 posted on 01/16/2021 12:50:53 AM PST by LibWhacker
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To: LibWhacker

38 posted on 01/16/2021 8:28:22 AM PST by TexasGator (Z1z)
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