Free Republic
Browse · Search
Bloggers & Personal
Topics · Post Article


1 posted on 12/27/2020 6:59:09 AM PST by Onthebrink
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies ]


To: Onthebrink

I have always viewed these as concept vessels. Not a complete waste of money, because they were test beds, but...not well spent money either.

In my opinion, you don’t spend money on a class of vessels as test beds, you take the concept of the USS Albacore which is a museum in Portsmouth, NH, where even though it was conventionally powered, it pioneered a lot of the concepts of future attack subs in it. It was never meant as a class.

And the Zumwalts are big. I drive by Bath, ME relatively often, and have seen one or the other of them being built there, and I was always surprised at how huge they were for a “destroyer”...they displace only a few thousand tons less than a Baltimore class heavy cruiser of WWII vintage.

They won’t last long


2 posted on 12/27/2020 7:11:56 AM PST by rlmorel ("I’d rather enjoy a risky freedom than a safe servitude." Robby Dinero, USMC Veteran, Gym Owner)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Onthebrink

The original conception was a real game-changer. It seemed to have tremendous potential. Technically a destroyer, many people considered it to be a stealthy battleship with real 21st century technology. And the possible future addition of a true rail gun.

But congress cut funding, and the 30+ fleet of Zumwalts became just a few outrageously expensive experimental ships. The ammunition was too costly, the rail gun isn’t happening, and no one really wants to send an experimental platform into a war zone.

Failed program, in my view.


3 posted on 12/27/2020 7:13:25 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (If White Privilege is real, why did Elizabeth Warren lie about being an Indian?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Onthebrink
Zumwalts are over 50% bigger and twice the price as the current Arleigh Burke class destroyers.
The question is: what can Zumwalts do which Arleigh Burkes can't?


5 posted on 12/27/2020 7:22:17 AM PST by BroJoeK ((a little historical perspective...) )
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Onthebrink

Gigantism gave us the dinosaurs who were succeeded by rats.

A ship that you cannot afford to lose is a ship you cannot deploy.

Quantity has a certain quality about it.

A trillion dollars here, a trillion dollars there, and soon we’re talking real money.


9 posted on 12/27/2020 7:52:18 AM PST by Redmen4ever
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Onthebrink

Sorry. But in the modern technological era, virtually all surface combatants are obsolete. Those brave young sailors will never know or see the geek sitting behind a console in a bunker who killed them.


11 posted on 12/27/2020 7:57:56 AM PST by allendale
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Drew68; Army Air Corps

For your interest.


12 posted on 12/27/2020 8:01:26 AM PST by KC_Lion
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Onthebrink

It looks scary, I like that part.


13 posted on 12/27/2020 8:10:15 AM PST by SaxxonWoods (Donald J. Trump is the rightful President of the USA and his own party won't admit that.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Onthebrink

‘Stealth’ is not going to hide you from a satellite.


14 posted on 12/27/2020 8:18:45 AM PST by real saxophonist (Yeah, well, you know that's just like, uh... your opinion, man.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Onthebrink

This is the new woke US Navy. The ship currently has no mission, is not survivable in combat, has no offensive capability, flammable, now, with additions, is not stealthy, lacks any real defense, is basically a Navy brass experimental toy, but the Navy has ordered or is building 3-4 more of these billion dollar boondoggles to match the LCS class (headed for scrap yard), and the $13 billion Ford class trainer CVNs - all more concept toys. All this money spent on these toys has made maintenance and spare parts lag.


15 posted on 12/27/2020 8:27:59 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

Free Republic
Browse · Search
Bloggers & Personal
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson