I watched this movie in the theater in 2001... The movie does mention Katyn Massacre... One of the code breakers find out about the Massacre while interpreting some German messages... I thought the movie was OK...
Posted on 12/15/2020 8:40:27 AM PST by PAUL09
Nazi Operated Enigma Machine Retrieved In Baltic Sea Recovery of the centuryâs long lost-quintessential mechanical encryption machine: The Enigma code machine was made in the cold Baltic Sea in Europe nearly three centuries after its drastic beneficial purpose had been served during the second world war.
Having been said that during the ending period of World War II, the machine was abandoned deep into the sea by German to keep it out of reach of the allies.
WHAT IS AN ENIGMA CODE?
The Enigma code machine. ( image source ) Enigma machines also used a form of substitution encryption. Substitution encryption is a simple way to decipher messages, but these codes are very easy to crack. The Caesar cipher is a good example of a substitution encryption scheme. The Caesar cipher transfers several positions for each letter of the alphabet.
For example, A Caesar cipher with a shift of 1 would encode P as a Q, and Z as an A, and many more. Similarly with a shift of 5 would encode A as F, M as R, and so on.
HOW ENIGMA CODE WAS USED DURING WORLD WAR-II? The Enigma machine is an authentication device evolved and utilized in the mid-20th century to safeguard industrial, political, armed, and economic information. It was commonly used by Nazi Germany during the Second World War, in all divisions of the German Army.
The machine allowed gazillions of ways to encrypt a data/statement, making it extremely tricky for other European countries during the war to decode German codes, thus securing themselves from foreign invasion and prevent attacks.
RETRIEVAL OF THE MACHINE DEEPER INTO THE BALTIC SEA : When a team of divers was given a task, based on the nature conservancy of the World Wildlife Fund unexpectedly found a mysterious object in northern Germanyâs Bay of Gelting while trying to collect old fishing nets. They obtained what was supposedly deemed to be a typical typewriter.
The team immediately grasped and contacted the authorities that they had uncovered a historic artifact. Allied troops fought tooth and nail during the war to decode the codes generated by the Enigma machine, which were constantly updated, to obtain crucial information about the activities of German soldiers.
But it was suggested to be what was long lost enigma code machine used during world war-II on extensive research being carried out by marine archaeologist Florian Huber at Bletchley Park.
âAs per the Imperial War Museums, English mathematician Alan Turing was vital to the efforts to crack the German Navyâs Enigma messages in 1941, which were much more complicatedâ
The achievement assisted the Allies in decoding crucial radio communications regarding German military activities.
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The milestone assisted the Allies in decrypting important coded messages concerning German military activities, setting a war to an end and saving the lives of millions of people; Turing and his teamâs story was rendered into a 2014 movie titled The Imitation Game, starring Benedict Cumberbatch, an Oscar-nominated UK actor.
The divers pledged to fund the machine in a museum where it could be preserved and exhibited.
Surviving Enigma machines are rare in 2020, but specimens can be found in museums spread all over the world. The reconstruction process for the discovery is expected to take around a year.
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The flaw in the enigma machine is each word has the same amount of characters.
A submarine would send messages in maritime language in German.
Not easy but you can parse out possible messages.
Re Oath:
Can’t answer that, as I don’t know. It’s possible.
I only know what my old man said, as I stated earlier. He was there, up close and personal, so his word was/is gospel to me. As is the word of other WWII Airborne veterans that I’ve spoken with over the years.
The “Nazis” were a political party organization, and they took over the country and all of its instituions, and placed THEIR people in key positions throughout the governments - federal, state, and local.
Some people were Nazis, and a lot weren’t.
Excellent movie on Netflix about Alan Turing, the man who cracked Enigma. Covers the technical feat as well as all the ensuing issues and politics.
Nazi Operated Enigma Machine Retrieved In Baltic Sea
About time! Now we can defeat the U-boats!
If you took someone from Germany in 1941, brought them to today. Tell them the EU was Hitler’s idea after winning the war and everything has been hunky dory ever since. Explain that Jews were sent to Israel to keep the peace.
They’d believe it.
in the aftermath of the war, there was a general push to promote a “clean wehrmacbt” concept....in that the “regular” german army -Heer-was not complicit in the crimes perpetrated against civilians, the Jewish population, etc.
this was done, in large part, to enable the Allies to quickly rearm West Germany as a line of defense against the Soviet threat to the West.
however, beginning in the 1990’s, this myth of a “Clean Wehrmacht” began to be challenged by Western historians...starting in Germany. Much evidence was. and continues to be, presented to show that “everyday” Heer units were just as actively involved in pogroms and “Aktion” as the Einsatzgruppen and some Waffen SS units, especially in the East.
Much has been written about the psychological reasonings for this. Christopher Browning authored some interesting books about this very topic. Indoctrination vs “heat of the moment” causes for massacres of civilians, etc.
While I am not discounting your Dad’s experiences, as time passes, and more evidence is uncovered and examined through eyes two generations removed, it is becoming more apparent that “regular” german army soldiers, in many cases, did identify with the ideological tenants of the regime.
just my .02
as a side note, the old adage that “the victors get to write the history books”, is not always accurate. in the case of the german defeat in the USSR, there was such a tight lid on archives in Moscow, that most of our knowledge and interpretation of the campaign in Russia came from the memoirs of german generals, etc. Certainly, not the victors.
it was not until the 1990’s that Western historians were given access to Red Army military archives...and then, better accounts of that conflict cnould be written. David Glantz, et al
Thanks, good info. I appreciate it.
I tend to view history through the eyes of the people who lived it, not historians who weren’t there, so my understanding is based on what they saw, from their limited but still first-person perspective.
i can appreciate that.
I try to do the same thing, whenever possible.
history is not about the facts. history is about the lessons, if we choose to learn them.
Roger that
But facts matter too, lest we tar innocent folks with too broad a brush.
Germany is an example of a society that went temporarily insane and followed a socialist madman into Hell. But there were good people trapped there as well... victimized by the socialists.
you are correct.
the facts certainly do matter.
Let me try to clarify my earlier muddy statement...:
the value in studying history is to discern the lessons that it contains.
the German mind has a historical tendency to be very precise, regimented and orderly...while sometimes failing to look at the big picture. this “trait” led them into two World Wars, and utter ruin.
Hitler understood this tendency, and took full advantage of it, exploiting the emotional pain surrounding Versailles and the global depression of the late 1920-early 1930’s.
Interestingly, after his failed putsch attempt in 1923, and subsequent prison term, he vowed to capture power by “legal” means....ballot box, etc...with a little coersive help from the SA. Not unlike what is happening here, today, in many respects.
I watched this movie in the theater in 2001... The movie does mention Katyn Massacre... One of the code breakers find out about the Massacre while interpreting some German messages... I thought the movie was OK...
“... Not unlike what is happening here, today, in many respects...”
My thoughts precisely.. so to your earlier point... some lessons were indeed learned :^) - by the democrats and their henchmen SA allies... our modern day Nazi party.
I'm going to assume you have too much blood in your caffeine system to recognize sarcasm. In the mean time, feel free to ignore anything else I say, and don't bother to reply to me. I do not want to hear from you again.
...nearly three centuries after its drastic beneficial purpose had been served during the second world war.
"Archaeology World" is garbage.
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