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Interesting New Lawsuit Filed In Pennsylvania State Court by Pennsylvania GOP Challenging Legality of Vote-By-Mail
Red State ^ | 11/22/2020

Posted on 11/22/2020 6:12:02 PM PST by SeekAndFind

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My issue with this lawsuit is this -- TOO LATE.

Why did they not challenge the legality of vote-by-mail BEFORE the election?

1 posted on 11/22/2020 6:12:02 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Rule of law?

We don’t need now steenking rule of law!


2 posted on 11/22/2020 6:16:18 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (You are in far more danger from an authoritarian government than you are from a seasonal virus.)
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To: KC_Lion

Ping.


3 posted on 11/22/2020 6:19:18 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: SeekAndFind

Interesting dilemma.

1. Whereas the state legislature has the sole right to set election law per the US Constitution (as I have read on FR).

2. The new state legislature approved law violates the state constitution.

Which take precedence?

I kind of think that since the state legislature had to approve the State election constitution law, that is the precedence.


4 posted on 11/22/2020 6:23:03 PM PST by where's_the_Outrage? (Drain the Swamp. Build the Wall.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
It is Letter of the Law.

Anyone who tells you it is the Spirit of the Law is robbing you and telling you so, to your face.

5 posted on 11/22/2020 6:23:59 PM PST by Deaf Smith (When a Texan takes his chances, chances will be taken that's for sure)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Not when you have judges who will make it up as they need to.


6 posted on 11/22/2020 6:25:16 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (If the meanings in the Constitution can change, why did they bother writing it down?)
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To: Deaf Smith

You did recognize my sarcasm, right?


7 posted on 11/22/2020 6:26:32 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (You are in far more danger from an authoritarian government than you are from a seasonal virus.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Because the GOP and their traditional white shoe law firms were eager to see Trump crash and burn.


8 posted on 11/22/2020 6:26:52 PM PST by Shadow44
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

Since the PA constitution specifically names the incidences in which a absentee ballot may be sent out, I would think that the law allowing for a “no excuse” absentee ballot violates the constitution.


9 posted on 11/22/2020 6:28:28 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (If the meanings in the Constitution can change, why did they bother writing it down?)
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To: SeekAndFind

The ruling will be that the PA constitution violates the US constitution giving sole authority to state legislatures without interference. Case dismissed.

I don’t need to be a lawyer to figure that out out.

FORGED BALLOTS, let’s see ‘em.


10 posted on 11/22/2020 6:29:30 PM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Reverse Wickard v Filburn (1942) - and - ISLAM DELENDA EST)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

PA constitution violates US constitution. see above


11 posted on 11/22/2020 6:31:42 PM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Reverse Wickard v Filburn (1942) - and - ISLAM DELENDA EST)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

But what takes precedence?

A. The State legislature.

B. The state constitution.

Per the US Constitution it would appear A is the correct answer.


12 posted on 11/22/2020 6:33:17 PM PST by where's_the_Outrage? (Drain the Swamp. Build the Wall.)
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide

“PA constitution violates US constitution”

Not necessarily. If the State Legislature approved the State Constitution than that is the election law.


13 posted on 11/22/2020 6:35:48 PM PST by where's_the_Outrage? (Drain the Swamp. Build the Wall.)
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To: SeekAndFind

“Why did they not challenge the legality of vote-by-mail BEFORE the election?”

Fair point, but irrelevant.

Was the state Constitution followed or not?


14 posted on 11/22/2020 6:40:56 PM PST by mrsmith (US MEDIA: " Every 'White' cop is a criminal! And all the 'non-white' criminals saints!")
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To: SeekAndFind
Why were they introducing "no excuse" absentee voting one year before COVID?
15 posted on 11/22/2020 6:41:46 PM PST by Petrosius
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide

I disagree. The US Constitution grants the state legislatures the power to set election law AS THEY SEE FIT. The PA legislature saw fit to incorporate it into the state constitution.


16 posted on 11/22/2020 6:41:57 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (If the meanings in the Constitution can change, why did they bother writing it down?)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

IANAL, but I might speculate that this would provide an interesting out for those worried about being criminally liable for election fraud in PA. A judge could rule in favor of the plaintiffs and:

- Flip PA to Trump - resulting in the Trump legal team dropping their PA litigation.

- Further investigation into the fraud in PA is halted, and what evidence had been gathered so far doesn’t get entered into court.

- And, of course, it would now look like Trump won PA due to some crafty legal maneuvering, rather than overturning widespread fraud.


17 posted on 11/22/2020 6:44:16 PM PST by shaven_llama
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To: SeekAndFind

My issue with this lawsuit is this — TOO LATE.
Why did they not challenge the legality of vote-by-mail BEFORE the election?


yep.


18 posted on 11/22/2020 6:45:59 PM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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My issue with this lawsuit is this — TOO LATE.
Why did they not challenge the legality of vote-by-mail BEFORE the election?


yep.

Though before the election they may well have denied standing due to the event not happening yet. (cynicism opinion, not legal one)


19 posted on 11/22/2020 6:47:01 PM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

But what takes precedence?

A. The State legislature.

B. The state constitution.

Per the US Constitution it would appear A is the correct answer.


The State Constitution IS an action of the state legislature.


20 posted on 11/22/2020 6:48:27 PM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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