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Is It Crazy To Have Questions About Election Integrity, Or Crazy To Suggest There's Nothing To See?
Red State ^ | 11/12/2020 | Sarah Lee

Posted on 11/12/2020 5:09:15 PM PST by SeekAndFind

There’s a tendency by those who would prefer to go ahead and put the Trump era behind the collective American consciousness and start embracing a Biden administration to view further discussion of election integrity failures as borderline conspiracy theory territory, if not an outright express train to Crazyland (those are not technical terms).

So former New York Mayor and current Trump attorney Rudy Giuliani is a problem for them, especially since he’s talking about widespread fraud and is fearless in mentioning the verboten D-word (-ominion voting machines). President Trump already gives those who believe the election has been decided plenty of reason to fret when he tweets the following in all caps:

“REPORT: DOMINION DELETED 2.7 MILLION TRUMP VOTES NATIONWIDE. DATA ANALYSIS FINDS 221,000 PENNSYLVANIA VOTES SWITCHED FROM PRESIDENT TRUMP TO BIDEN. 941,000 TRUMP VOTES DELETED. STATES USING DOMINION VOTING SYSTEMS SWITCHED 435,000 VOTES FROM TRUMP TO BIDEN.” @ChanelRion @OANN

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 12, 2020

The standard line is that any mention of such things is simply insanity. There’s not much effort to explain why it’s any different to claim absolute certainty these things didn’t happen as it is to claim absolute certainty they did absent some investigation into the matter. And an investigation could happen if the DOJ decides it wants to focus on the technical glitches of the voting software. But until that time, there are just lines being drawn in the sand, with some expecting Biden to ultimately prevail, and others expecting Trump to triumph. And neither side would admit it, but there are striking similarities in how the two factions approach what they “know” to be true.

The wave of initial vote fraud rumors has been decisively debunked, so now the president retreats to the farthest fringes of conspiracy theory, to the software vote fairy that magically changes the count. https://t.co/v5YkRakLgL

— David French (@DavidAFrench) November 12, 2020

But given the news out of Philadelphia Thursday:

BREAKING: Pennsylvania.🗳️

Judge orders segregated ballots should *not* be counted. It rules the PA Secretary of State "lacked statutory authority" to override election law. Critically, the state has a Republican state legislature.#SCOTUS may ultimately decide the case now. pic.twitter.com/2VO6mkl66M

— Kyle Becker (@kylenabecker) November 12, 2020

This interview Giuliani gave Just the News Wednesday sounds less kooky than some would insist it is.

Speaking with Navy SEAL and former Missouri Gov. Eric Greitens, host of the “Actionable Intelligence” TV program, Giuliani focused mainly on Michigan and Pennsylvania, where lawsuits have already been filed. He also talked about Dominion Voting Software, which holds over one-third of the voting-machine market in the U.S., operating in 28 states, and which hired Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s former chief of staff as a lobbyist in 2019.

Giuliani said that the Trump campaign legal team has an affidavit in the Michigan case from someone who worked for Dominion, who said that 100,000 ballots were brought in at 4 a.m. that were all Biden ballots, not a single Trump vote.

In Pennsylvania, Biden was down 800,000 votes, and as hundreds of thousands of late votes came in election night, the Republicans didn’t get to review those ballots as they were being counted.

Giuliani said that these cases may end up at the Supreme Court, but the state legislatures, which choose the electors who will vote on the president, is where these matters belong. He says that he “can’t imagine they won’t do the right thing.”

Meanwhile, the American people continue to wait — likely ready to accept either outcome with some hope for the future, and almost assuredly less likely to think they know exactly what went down in the early days of November 2020. They’ll wait and see until more information becomes available before making their definitive pronouncements. Washington could learn from them.


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: dsj03; election; fraud; integrity

1 posted on 11/12/2020 5:09:15 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

I detest “Not See” Democrats.


2 posted on 11/12/2020 5:11:18 PM PST by a fool in paradise (Who built the cages, Joe?)
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To: a fool in paradise
I detest “Not See” Democrats.
3 posted on 11/12/2020 5:13:07 PM PST by Da Coyote
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To: SeekAndFind

It’s like a Sicilian asserting “There is no Mafia. It doesn’t exist”.


4 posted on 11/12/2020 5:13:22 PM PST by rfp1234 (Caveat Emperor)
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To: rfp1234

Yup

Notice how the press was totally supportive of hillarys 2016 legal challenges, 2016 green party legal challenges, 2000 algore challenges...


5 posted on 11/12/2020 5:15:22 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: SeekAndFind

It’s crazy to trust any Demorrhhoid.


6 posted on 11/12/2020 5:15:25 PM PST by Huskrrrr
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To: SeekAndFind

As Scott Adams says and Trump himself retweeted, we are all being hypnotized to believe the election was fine, and that people who think otherwise are crazy and should be shunned. Something like that.

Super spooky.


7 posted on 11/12/2020 5:15:39 PM PST by olivia3boys
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To: SeekAndFind

Were we crazy to say there was something to see with the Russian collusion BS?


8 posted on 11/12/2020 5:15:40 PM PST by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne)
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To: SeekAndFind

If you don’t look, you can’t see.


9 posted on 11/12/2020 5:15:48 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: SeekAndFind

It’s not crazy to suggest there is nothing to see, just evil.

It is sobering to me that one of our two major political parties is a criminal organization that ought to be shut down under the RICO statute.


10 posted on 11/12/2020 5:16:02 PM PST by devere
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To: SeekAndFind

Early & Often has been a running joke among dems for a decades now.


11 posted on 11/12/2020 5:43:46 PM PST by Pollard (Bunch of curmudgeons)
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To: Pollard

Philly has been a hotbed of voting crimes since at least the 1860s, apparently.


12 posted on 11/12/2020 5:45:03 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: SeekAndFind

“See something, say something!”

“Whistleblowers are heroes!”

Uh...wait...


13 posted on 11/12/2020 5:46:42 PM PST by polymuser (A socialist is a communist without the power to take everything from their citizens...yet.)
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To: SeekAndFind

But but but I just read the DHS report that this was the most secure election in history and there was not a “smidgen” of fraud.

BWAHAHAHA It must be April 1 for DHS/CISA


14 posted on 11/12/2020 6:13:15 PM PST by LeoTDB69
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To: SeekAndFind

If you see election smoke, why wouldn’t you investigate election fire?


15 posted on 11/12/2020 7:27:06 PM PST by The_Media_never_lie (No more Fox News.)
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To: Da Coyote

Time edit to Post
Thanks


16 posted on 11/12/2020 7:39:53 PM PST by ptsal (CVote R.E.D. >>>Remove Every Democrat ***)
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To: a fool in paradise
As anyone knows who has ever seen a cockroach scurry across a kitchen floor when you turn on the light...

There are tens of thousands you cannot see.

Same with Election Fraud.

For every act of thievery that has seen the light of day, there are tens of thousands we have not seen.

Yet.

17 posted on 11/12/2020 9:51:47 PM PST by rlmorel ("Leftism is the plaything of a society with too much time on its hands." - Candace Owens)
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To: olivia3boys

Talk about Crazyland, that’s where we will all be if Biden and Harris win,to put it mildly. More to the point,we will be living in one vast gulag.


18 posted on 11/13/2020 3:12:46 PM PST by liberalism is suicide
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To: liberalism is suicide

President Trump is the best President in my 70+ years. I don’t think he wants to the last legally elected and the one who lost our Free Republic . I hope he uses ALL his Presidential power...and soon. The DIMS are psychopathic lunatics who crave Bizarro world.


19 posted on 11/13/2020 6:14:26 PM PST by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp??)
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