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In newly surfaced July interview, Fauci warns that widely used COVID tests may pick up 'dead' virus
Just the News ^ | November 8, 2020 | Daniel Payne

Posted on 11/09/2020 10:22:35 AM PST by CheshireTheCat

In newly resurfaced video from July, Dr. Anthony Fauci appeared to acknowledge that large numbers of positive COVID-19 cases may arise from oversensitive tests that pick up mere fragments of the virus rather than active, viable infections.

If true, many patients may have been receiving false-positive test results — causing much needless anxiety and disruption to everyday life — while the numbers of COVID-19 cases reported by public health authorities and major COVID tracking websites could be vastly overstated.

The admission came on a July 16 episode of This Week in Virology, a longtime science podcast hosted by Columbia University virologist Vincent Racaniello. Fauci, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, had joined the program to discuss various aspects of the COVID-19 pandemic, including testing.

Concerns have been raised over the last several months that laboratory tests widely deployed to detect SARS-Cov-2 — what are known as polymerase chain reaction, or PCR, tests — may in fact be picking up remnants of the virus instead of meaningful levels of infection. Some critics have argued that significant numbers of purportedly positive COVID-19 tests are actually not infectious at all.

At the center of the debate is the "cycle threshold" at which a PCR test operates. PCR tests work by multiplying a virus fragment over a series of cycles until it can reliably detect and confirm the virus within a sample...

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1 posted on 11/09/2020 10:22:35 AM PST by CheshireTheCat
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To: CheshireTheCat

PCR false positives.


2 posted on 11/09/2020 10:23:49 AM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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To: CheshireTheCat

many also response with false positive to the
common cold.

others give an odious positive because the test kits
CONTAIN coronavirus.

but what give FauXi his patent royalties.
It is HIS virus, and the CDC’s virus.
to THEM go all money, fame, and glory.

to THEM should go jail and worse.


3 posted on 11/09/2020 10:25:30 AM PST by Diogenesis ("when a crime is unpunished, the world is unbalanced")
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To: CheshireTheCat

Never said this before the election.


4 posted on 11/09/2020 10:29:43 AM PST by tennmountainman ( Liberals Are Baby Killers)
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To: CheshireTheCat

Don’t be fretful, citizens. President BiteMe is going to make everybody where a mask 24x7 and all will be well.


5 posted on 11/09/2020 10:32:36 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom ("Inside Every Progressive Is A Totalitarian Screaming To Get Out" -- David Horowitz)
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To: CheshireTheCat
How many people have already had it....and are now testing positive?

That's the problem...we don't know how many people have had it.

6 posted on 11/09/2020 10:33:19 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: CheshireTheCat

This is nothing new about PCR tests.


7 posted on 11/09/2020 10:38:57 AM PST by Morpheus2009 (If you want me to be afraid, then be consistent in your logic, standards, and your lies!)
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To: CheshireTheCat; 2ndreconmarine; Fitzcarraldo; Covenantor; Mother Abigail; EBH; Dog Gone; ...
Infectious Disease Ping - False Positive covid-19 results explained / while not infectious at all (?)

"If true, many patients may have been receiving false-positive test results — causing much needless anxiety and disruption to everyday life — while the numbers of COVID-19 cases reported by public health authorities and major COVID tracking websites could be vastly overstated."

"The admission came on a July 16 episode of This Week in Virology, a longtime science podcast hosted by Columbia University virologist Vincent Racaniello.
Fauci, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, had joined the program to discuss various aspects of the COVID-19 pandemic, including testing."

"Concerns have been raised over the last several months that laboratory tests widely deployed to detect SARS-Cov-2 — what are known as polymerase chain reaction, or PCR, tests — may in fact be picking up remnants of the virus instead of meaningful levels of infection. (Emphasis mine)
Some critics have argued that significant numbers of purportedly positive COVID-19 tests are actually not infectious at all."

At the center of the debate is the "cycle threshold" at which a PCR test operates.
PCR tests work by multiplying a virus fragment over a series of cycles until it can reliably detect and confirm the virus within a sample.
The more cycles a test must go through before it detects the virus, the smaller and weaker the original sample was.

8 posted on 11/09/2020 10:53:34 AM PST by Tilted Irish Kilt
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To: CheshireTheCat

Google - MATH+ PROTOCOL for covid

Dr. Paul Marik has been saying this, that the most contagious phase is the incubation phase and by the time someone is symptomatic, the virus is dying. The REAL sickness, trouble breathing comes when the patient’s body has gone into overdrive to kill the covid and leaves all the gunk behind in the lungs.


9 posted on 11/09/2020 11:02:19 AM PST by a real Sheila (Epstein didn't kill himself, but Hunter probably will.)
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To: Sacajaweau; CheshireTheCat
Sacajaweau :" How many people have already had it....and are now testing positive?
That's the problem...we don't know how many people have had it."

The problem is that there is no standard definition of quantity of viral filaments to be found in the testing procedure.
Therefore you might not have the virus now, perhaps even months ago even had the virus and were asymptomatic,
and now you test positive (?).
Let's say, as a politician wants a plague, for whatever reason,
you have the testing procedure adjust and lower the number of viral filaments to be found in a testing procedure an not determine whether alive or long-dead,
and voila, you can have your plague and your authoritarian regime in power.
Immoral and unethical -..yup,..you bet !
The test discerns filaments, not whether they are alive , or long dead.

10 posted on 11/09/2020 11:07:59 AM PST by Tilted Irish Kilt
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To: CheshireTheCat

This has been known for some time now.

Course, the media won’t cover it, but what they need to do is not push the test so hard.

Figure out what level they need to get to to find out if someone is contagious and test to that.

Don’t keep testing until they are finding mere fragments of a virus, which may not even be COVID, in someone who is not infectious.


11 posted on 11/09/2020 11:31:09 AM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith.)
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To: a real Sheila
Dr. Paul Marik has been saying this, that the most contagious phase is the incubation phase and by the time someone is symptomatic, the virus is dying.

That's what it is for a number of viruses.

If you were contagious only after you were sick, then you could quarantine and stop the spread of the disease.

But if you are contagious before you show symptoms, then the disease can spread easily.

12 posted on 11/09/2020 11:34:10 AM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith.)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

Not just false positives.

Non-infectious true positives.

NYS, BTW, counts repeat positives of the same patient as new positives.

Handy, that.


13 posted on 11/09/2020 11:35:45 AM PST by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds.)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

Three guesses why labs are refusing to make the info on which Ct threshold they use easily available to medicos and consumers.


14 posted on 11/09/2020 11:37:24 AM PST by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds.)
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To: CheshireTheCat
And some persons can continue to test positive for COVID-19 even 60 days after being infected. [https://qcostarica.com/why-is-the-low-hospitalization-of-patients-with-covid-19/] And according to a study involving 3 states up to 90% of persons testing positive via PCR tests have such a low viral load that they are not likely to be contagious. Even from the NYT: Your Coronavirus Test Is Positive. Maybe It Shouldn’t Be.
15 posted on 11/09/2020 11:45:09 AM PST by daniel1212 (Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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To: mewzilla
mewzilla :" Three guesses why labs are refusing to make the info on which Ct threshold they use easily available to medicos and consumers."

What is worse, the medical community have known about this testing inconsistency since 7/16/2020 !

As stated in the Original posting article:
"The admission came on a July 16 episode of This Week in Virology, a longtime science podcast hosted by Columbia University virologist Vincent Racaniello."

This brings the pandemic statistics into reality, where only positive covid-19 tested cases in hospital,
represent the true infection "hot spots".
As we are entering into the influenza season, there will be increased confusion as to the rate of covid-19 infection with seasonal influenza.
Previously, this is a 'novel' virus, and we are still learning more about it's specific peculiarities as time goes on.

16 posted on 11/09/2020 11:56:05 AM PST by Tilted Irish Kilt
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17 posted on 11/09/2020 12:16:06 PM PST by bitt (Well gosh, it is beginning to look like rock bottom had a basement to it)
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To: CheshireTheCat

NO ONE knew about the facets of this virus.

It was open bio warfare by China.

All these comments are like trying to put the hoop over the poss at the local carnival. You miss alot more than you succeed.

Fauci & his ilk are even more suspect due to the fact that Fauci & Bill Gates have multiple patents on yet to be created vaccines....


18 posted on 11/10/2020 9:28:32 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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