Posted on 10/16/2020 4:29:43 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
If you’re thinking about getting a flu shot this year, you might want to do some rethinking
If it’s too late and you’ve already got one or have been doing so regularly for years, you might want to take a deep breath.
The information you’re about to receive may cause outrage.
Most people who get a flu vaccine probably assume that it’s going to… you know… prevent them from getting the flu. I mean, why would you go through the trouble and incur the risk of a serious adverse reaction that attends taking any vaccine if you didn’t think it would be effective?
But, as I alerted our readers to a few months back, when people like Anthony Fauci hawk some treatment as effective, it doesn’t mean quite what you think.
A Washington Post article I cited made the shocking claims that the flu vaccine only “clocks in most years at 40% to 60% effective,” while the FDA will only “require a coronavirus vaccine to be 50% effective.”
As I later reported, it turns out the low 50% bar the FDA is setting for effectiveness is just one among many very troubling facts that nobody’s telling you about that COVID-19 vaccine the government will soon be insisting we all start lining up for the second it’s available.
But it turns out that, as lousy as the rate they cited for the flu vaccine was, the Washington Post had, nonetheless, greatly exaggerated its effectiveness.
If the CDC’s own figures are to be believed, over the prior 15 flu seasons, the flu vaccine only reached the low bar of being 40% effective nine times. It’s been as low as a jaw-dropping 10% – meaning 9 out of 10 people who got vaccinated that year got zero protection from the flu – but never gone above 60%.
The average effectiveness for the past 15 flu seasons turns out to be only 40%.
On the CDC’s own figures, the flu vaccine failed to do anything for 6 out of 10 people who went to the trouble of getting it in the last 15 years.
Q: What product with a 60% failure rate do US officials aggressively push?
A: The flu vaccine!
The CDC says average effectiveness for past 15 seasons is 40%. It's been as low as 10%.
If it were a toaster, they'd make sure we know.
But it's only a vaccine so who cares, right? pic.twitter.com/isfPEoMULc— Michael Thau (@MichaelThau) October 16, 2020
Moreover, as bad as these figures are, there’s some reason to think they might be intentionally inflated.
When determining a vaccine’s effectiveness, researchers compare the ratio of those who received a vaccination among a random group of infected people with their ratio among a random group of uninfected people. Those in the latter group are called the control subjects.
The studies for the 2004-05, 2005-06, and 2006-07 flu vaccines yielded two different effectiveness rates for each. One was obtained using what the authors call “traditional” control subjects, that is, healthy people from the general population. Whereas the second set of effectiveness rates were obtained using patients who were ill but not with influenza, whom the authors called “test-negative” control subjects.
In all subsequent flu seasons, it appears that traditional subjects were abandoned and only test-negative control subjects were used. And for those three seasons for which rates were obtained using both, the CDC chose the figures that came from test-negative subjects and ignored the ones derived using traditional subjects.
Using test-negative subjects, however, caused flu vaccines to get significantly higher effectiveness ratings. The 10% rating for the 2004-05 vaccine dropped all the way down to 5% when traditional subjects were used. That would mean only 1 out of 20 people who got vaccinated that year wound up with any immunity to the flu for the trouble, expense, and risk they incurred.
The 21% rating for the 2005-06 flu vaccine dropped down to 10% when the traditional method was used. The 52% rating for the 2006-07 vaccine dropped to 37%.
But the authors of the study for those three seasons explicitly say that “using test-negative control subjects is a new approach with little precedent” and that test-negative subjects, though similar in some respects, “likely differ from the source population in other ways that affect generalizability.”
Moreover, even the study done on the 2015-16 flu vaccine still notes that “the test-negative design is still comparatively new. This design may be subject to biases that are not fully understood.”
But if that was still true in 2016, why was the use of traditional control subjects discontinued in 2007 in favor of test-negative subjects?
It’s hard not to suspect that the higher vaccine effectiveness ratings that resulted might be the answer.
After all, even the numbers the CDC got using test-negative controls are awful. Even if they’re correct, on average over the last 15 years the flu vaccine failed to do anything for 6 out of 10 people who got it.
You’re lucky in any given year if it’s 50% effective and there’d be nothing at all unusual if 75% of Americans who decide to get vaccinated wind up with no immunity for their trouble.
The CDC aggressively pushes flu vaccines and virtually none of those foolish enough to trust them have a clue that there’s a better than even chance the vaccine they’re relying on to keep them healthy isn’t going to do squat.
So it’s hardly a stretch to suppose that traditional controls were abandoned in favor of a method that researchers admit may have unknown biases because it consistently yielded somewhat less dismal effectiveness ratings.
But dismal they are nonetheless.
Whatever it is that the CDC is up to, it doesn’t seem like it has anything at all to do with disease control.
To answer the question in the title:
Because vaccines are incredibly profitable, easy to wrap in a narrative of virtue signaling, contract with tens upon tens of millions of school-age children, pay off legislators to make the vaccines mandatory, ...
never ending supply of revenue extracted from a gullible population.
this agency patents viruses to MAKE MONEY,
and demands vaccinations to MAKE MONEY,
and has plans to SHARE THE MADE MONEY amongst themselves.
if the virus is too dangerous they shipped it
to WUHAN, but patented it first, so ONLY THEY
could make the vaccine TO MAKE MONEY.
what f’n difference does it make if it works <== reconcile
BKMK
$$$$$$$$$$$.
Never had one, never will.
So as of Jan 2020 I had lived 3170 weeks without taking a flu shot, at the end of t week 3170 I had my first. Theyre supposed to take 2 weeks to be fully effective. Well at the end of week 3172 I had full blown RA(rheumatoid arthritis).
Me neither...I’m 77. I had a flu around 1977. None since.
The CDC is corrupt to the core and full of horse-apples.
Retrovirus vaccines imo are mostly a scam and bunk.
Besides the fact that it seems that most people here are willing put a rushed vaccine into their body that has not even been tested properly. Then we have the fact that the vaccine will probably be almost ineffective. Even normal vaccines have side effects for many. Some of those side effects last a lifetime. And for most people this virus is not that big a deal. But hey- Take the shot! Maybe it will even get into your brain and turn you into a progressive liberal.
If you are 65 or over it is wise to take the pneumonia vaccine. It is safe and has been very effective. There is also some chatter out there that it has helped seniors avoid the worst of the CoVid effects
As I understand it, and open to correction from experts, the main problem with the flu vaccine is that it is based on projections of what types of flu are expected to emerge this flu season. Think about it, they have to prepare and ship the vaccine many many months before flu seasons hits, and give it to people before flu season arrives. So they formulate the vaccine almost a year ahead of time to combat the expected types of influenza that may emerge... but they could be completely wrong about which flu emerges as the major infection of the year... in which case the vaccine is of little to no use.
As a nurse in the ICU, I haven’t had many Guillian barre syndrome patients in the last few years. I have had two patients with guilliane barre after flu shots, in the last month.
I’ve seen all that, worked the field as a PhD data scientist, clinical trial designer, analyst, author, and editor
Yes, some, a few vaccines are necessary, but most are not, with poor quality control, misleading marketing, failure to follow up with side effect monitoring.
You will notice the subject of this thread is a garbage flu vaccine. Flu vaccines do not affect most flu strains and most flu viruses mutate. So it becomes a social conditioning ritual similar to wearing ineffective masks people wear today.
Note that the number of mandatory vaccines in youth has exploded from four in the 1960s to more than 60 in the 2000s.
It’s time for accountability.
I think it would be extreme foolishness to stand in line for vaccine that was developed, approved by the FDA, and batched for mass distribution inside of 6-8 months time. There is just no way to prove long term safety. Heck not even medium term safety. Efficacy questions aside, there is just way too much room for mistakes of all types trying to rush a vaccine out. I admire the researchers’ ingenuity and perseverance and they probably are damn good at solving these riddles... but I don’t think any drug has ever been tested and approved by regulators in such a short time span in the history of drug regulation. And there is a reason for that.
And ordinarily I generally oppose too stringent regulations by the FDA. But that doesn’t mean I want to be the guinea pig for some new injection. I’m fine with the mitigation strategies - distance, hygiene, sanitize.
Little Richie being on the FR prayer thread is all you need to know about flu shots.
#17 above.
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