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1283: Dafydd ap Gruffydd, Prince of Wales
ExecutedToday.com ^ | October 3, 2009 | Jonathan Shipley

Posted on 10/03/2020 12:51:09 PM PDT by CheshireTheCat

If you cross “Longshanks,” as the regal man was called, you’re in for some serious pain. And then, eventually, you’ll die, like Dafydd ap Gruffydd did this day in 1283.

It is Dafydd, a Prince of Wales, who became the first prominent person in recorded history to have been hanged, drawn and quartered.

Yes, Dafydd’s death was particularly gruesome. Having fought alongside King Edward against Dafydd’s own brother and then returning to his brother’s side attacking King Edward’s Englishmen at Hawarden Castle, made the king rather peeved.

The English conquest of Wales: end of an era. When Longshanks got the better of him, Dafydd was dragged through the streets of Shrewsbury attached to a horse’s tail. He was then hanged, but not enough to kill him, just enough to make it awfully uncomfortable.

More uncomfortable was the emasculation....

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1 posted on 10/03/2020 12:51:09 PM PDT by CheshireTheCat
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To: CheshireTheCat

Interesting readd.


2 posted on 10/03/2020 12:56:19 PM PDT by Ken H (Best SOTU ever!)
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3 posted on 10/03/2020 12:57:55 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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To: Dr. Sivana

What was that from???


4 posted on 10/03/2020 1:04:06 PM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: BradyLS

That was from the movie Braveheart. Longshanks’ sissy son declared Philip to be his royal counsel as things were falling apart. Philip was just as fruity, and Longshanks took him aside to ask for “advice” before throwing out the window.


5 posted on 10/03/2020 1:05:58 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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To: BradyLS

Braveheart. Great movie. In that scene I did not see it coming at all.

It’s not stated but strongly implied that he was a lover of the King’s son.

The look on the son’s face when he throws him out the window is hysterical :)


6 posted on 10/03/2020 1:07:37 PM PDT by dp0622 (I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO ABOUT THE COVID GODFATHER, I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO. YOU CAN ACT LIKE A MAN!)
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Longshanks was the bad guy, but I remember people cheering in the theater when that happened.


7 posted on 10/03/2020 1:08:37 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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To: CheshireTheCat

Do not cross King Edward I.

If you cross “Longshanks,” as the regal man was called, you’re in for some serious pain. And then, eventually, you’ll die, like Dafydd ap Gruffydd did this day in 1283.

It is Dafydd, a Prince of Wales, who became the first prominent person in recorded history to have been hanged, drawn and quartered.

Yes, Dafydd’s death was particularly gruesome. Having fought alongside King Edward against Dafydd’s own brother and then returning to his brother’s side attacking King Edward’s Englishmen at Hawarden Castle, made the king rather peeved.

When Longshanks got the better of him, Dafydd was dragged through the streets of Shrewsbury attached to a horse’s tail. He was then hanged, but not enough to kill him, just enough to make it awfully uncomfortable.

More uncomfortable was the emasculation.

Perhaps more uncomfortable than being emasculated was when Dafydd was disemboweled and his entrails burned before his eyes.

Then they cut off his head, which must have been a relief.

Then they cut off his limbs.

Then they parboiled his head for later viewing.

(William Wallace met the same fate from the same king a couple of decades later.)


 

8 posted on 10/03/2020 1:13:10 PM PDT by Bratch (If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.)
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To: Dr. Sivana

I’ve only seen parts of Braveheart. Another movie I need to see.

I wonder if that particular incident was part of the inspiration for the “Swamp Castle sequence” (where the dad (Palin) tosses his son Herbert (Jones) out the window and adopts Lancelot (Cleese) as his son instead) in Monty Python and the Holy Grail?


9 posted on 10/03/2020 1:15:05 PM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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I did hate him in the movie.

What a monster.

And I was stunned more than anything when he took a dive.

I guess that fact that he was well versed in the art of war...or whatever he said..didn’t matter to the king :)

The son tried to knife the king right after, right?

I’ve seen it a million times...getting old :)


10 posted on 10/03/2020 1:15:13 PM PDT by dp0622 (I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO ABOUT THE COVID GODFATHER, I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO. YOU CAN ACT LIKE A MAN!)
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I knew exactly what was going to happen. First of all it's obvious the two kids were gay. Longshanks was a ruthless bastard. He certainly wasn't going to take a challenge to this throne, not even from his son. And anytime a king would immediately turn to a stranger, in this case an upstart, homosexual young man for advice it isn't going to end well. Situational awareness is very important. In such circumstances, around people of authority and power who can have you killed in an instant it's very important to be aware of where you are and what's going on around you.
11 posted on 10/03/2020 1:20:30 PM PDT by jmacusa (If we're all equal how is diversity our strength?)
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To: BradyLS

It’s likely the other way around as the Python movie predates Braveheart.


12 posted on 10/03/2020 1:21:58 PM PDT by Rightwing Conspiratr1
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To: dp0622
I did hate him in the movie.

Longshanks was definitely evil, but it is sort of like watching a mobster movie when someone on the inside of the evil operation violates the code within the operation. It is sad and satisfying at the same time. (e.g. Tessio in the Godfather).

And yes, the son made a pathetic lunge at Longshanks before getting smacked down, and having his dagger taken from him.
13 posted on 10/03/2020 1:32:24 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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To: CheshireTheCat

Arise, Prince Of Wales.

14 posted on 10/03/2020 1:46:05 PM PDT by Dr.Deth
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Well Daffy Duck is the brother to the Prince of Wales today...... Appropriate match.


15 posted on 10/03/2020 1:46:27 PM PDT by Robert A Cook PE ( I can only donate monthly, but the radical ABCNNBCBS does it every hour on their news.)
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To: jmacusa

I’m not good with that kind of stuff.

You would think growing up around gangsters I would be sharper when it came to stuff like that.

But I just don’t think like that.

Thank God no one wants to hurt me :)

That I know of.


16 posted on 10/03/2020 2:11:38 PM PDT by dp0622 (I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO ABOUT THE COVID GODFATHER, I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO. YOU CAN ACT LIKE A MAN!)
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To: CheshireTheCat

Edward I is supposed to be my 20th great-grandfather. And Robert the Bruce I is also shown as my 20th great-grandfather. Both from different lines in my mother’s side of the family. God only knows if it’s true.


17 posted on 10/03/2020 2:17:40 PM PDT by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne)
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To: CheshireTheCat

I have a theory that many historical beheadings were just really bad haircuts by totally incompetent barbers. Their guild was a powerful lobby and had history blame all of the errant deep neck divots on political or religious differences.


18 posted on 10/03/2020 2:26:13 PM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult
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To: dp0622
Working in NYC thirty years ago sure taught me that. Especially riding the E train. I always make sure I know what's going on around me, even more so now that I'm getting older. Working in a busy hospital ER you gotta be sharp. People who are in pain, crazy or just plain whacked out can do some crazy stuff in a heartbeat.
19 posted on 10/03/2020 2:47:04 PM PDT by jmacusa (If we're all equal how is diversity our strength?)
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Agreed. My sister worked in ER many years ago.

Horror stories she came home with...and that was like 40 years ago.


20 posted on 10/03/2020 2:48:58 PM PDT by dp0622 (I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO ABOUT THE COVID GODFATHER, I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO. YOU CAN ACT LIKE A MAN!)
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