Posted on 09/10/2020 4:15:22 AM PDT by Travis McGee
In societies living under the Rule of Law, sworn Law Enforcement (LE) officers have always been considered fully justified in applying lethal force against violent mobs during arson riots, such as those which have been occurring with regularity in American cities during the terrible summer of 2020. This was the intent and meaning of police officials publicly Reading the Riot Act, announcing over a loudspeaker that a violent mob had been declared to be an unlawful assembly, that is to say, a riot. Rioters who lingered on the street after that final warning could be engaged by LE at any level up to and including the use of deadly force, with no further announcement.
This was, in prior more civilized times, a basic understanding of all citizens living under the Rule of Law. This is why a police officers standard-issue pump shotgun was traditionally referred to as a riot gun long before the development of modern less-than-lethal munitions. This is also why arson riots were uncommon and short-lived. Everyone understood the ground rules. There was no right to burn, loot or murder.
Thomas Sowell put it this way: If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.
ABR, my own acronym for the current working coalition of Antifa, BLM and the Revolutionary Communist Party of the U.S., are now routinely using Molotov cocktails (gasoline bombs) and other incendiary/explosive devices as offensive weapons in both an anti-personnel and anti-property (arson) role. As far as the BATFE is concerned, a Molotov cocktail is an illegal explosive device, and so are powerful high-altitude fireworks, when they are deployed at ground level as anti-personnel and anti-property explosive/incendiary grenades.
ABR deliberately uses the anonymity of their black-clad and face-masked mobs to conceal the identity of their individual bomb throwers, in exactly the same way that 19th Century Ku Klux Klan night riders carrying torches on arson missions concealed their identities with white robes and masks. There is no moral or ethical requirement for either police or ordinary citizens protecting their communities from violent mobs to identify and ferret out the individual bomb throwers, when the rest of the mob is intentionally surrounding them in order to shield them from that identification. Because of the deliberately created synergy of bomb throwers utilizing the anonymity of the mob, the entire ABR mob becomes a legitimate target for police arrest or armed community self-defense.
Furthermore, at this writing in September of 2020, there is no moral or ethical requirement for a law-abiding American citizen to wait for a lit Molotov cocktail or any other incendiary or explosive device to crash through the window of their home or business, while ABR mobs are rampaging through the streets conducting arson attacks. Once the fires begin, morally and ethically, the same Rules for the Use of Force (RUF) should apply that would attach to a lynch mob, or to Ku Klux Klan night riders on their way to burn homes or businesses. Both KKK night riders bearing torches in olden times, and violent mobs of ABR terrorists with Molotov cocktails and other incendiary devices today, can and should be engaged by armed citizens with any necessary level of force required to halt their terroristic depredations.
In numerous recent cases, law enforcement under Leftist political control has repeatedly abdicated its traditional and expected role in breaking up violent riots and preventing arson and other terror attacks. Week by week, the level of ABR violence has been steadily escalating, and its logical to assume that it will only worsen as the hotly-contested presidential election draws near.
So let me be very clear: if Democrat Party governors, mayors and DAs have hamstrung their police for political reasons, and wont allow them to protect the lives and property of their local citizens using all required force, abandoning their primary mission in order to bow to the ABR mob, then it is time for their undefended citizens to apply the clear intent of the Second Amendment. There should be deep regret about the abandonment of the Rule of Law by the Democrat Party political ruling class, but there should be no moral quibbles or hesitation by American citizens concerning the legitimacy of armed community self defense, in the absence of expected law enforcement protection.
Therefore, it is my carefully considered opinion that black-clad and masked ABR mobs, rampaging and terrorizing innocent citizens under the cover of darkness in the style of the KKK of old, may morally and ethically be taken under preemptive fire by armed citizens at any level necessary to drive them out of their peaceful neighborhoods and away from their businesses, before the terrorists can reach their targets and throw their Molotov cocktails and other explosive and incendiary devices.
As an historical note, it should be understood that the National Rifle Association was founded after the last American Civil War by former Union Army officers, (and Republicans at that), in order to empower freed African-American former slaves to defend themselves with firearms against KKK night raids. In the 19th Century, the Democrat Party, then allied with the Klan, (as the Democrats of today are aligned with Antifa and BLM), had favored strict gun control, in the form of narrowly written laws restricting the legal ownership of firearms by free black citizens.
The more things change
I think we need to get Paul Harrell to test various shot pellet loads in skip fire mode.
PH: “Against the meat target....”
PH: “As always, don’t try this at home, I’m what you call a professional.”
“Federal Shorty Shotgun Shells” (Aug 31)
“Hi, we’re out on the range today, so bear with the gunfire you hear in the background.” (At least watch the first 20 seconds. Antifa/BLM literally have NO idea.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8F_AdP7VoxQ&ab_channel=PaulHarrell
I love the mini shells. Instead of 9 in a Mossberg 590A1, there are 12. Less recoil due to less power but no factor on soft targets. The slugs are devastating since they carry 3 times the power of a 44 magnum, but they are really controllable on recoil. The buckshot is sweet and patterns nicely. At 25 yards, about a 4 foot circle. Guaranteed to break molotov glass.
Not at all.
It seems the world is out of frangible bullets. Can’t seem to get my hands on any. Nothing like little to no evidence after a nice firefight.
We called it “skip firing.”
i know, it was a bad pool reference joke...
That is when the streets will be painted red.
Yeah, if you don’t aim do the pavement from too far away and create a guillotine effect.
And don’t tell the bastards that kerosene is just as effective but safer for cocktails. Add a little tide to it and you have a sticky burn.
New York State also has a Castle Doctrine. The doctrine states that if a persons dwelling or occupied building is being invaded or burglarized, the occupant can use deadly force without a warning shot, calling 9-1-1, or a belief that the person is armed.
Im going under the assumption that throwing a Molotov cocktail equals being invaded.
Thanks Matt,
Tools for survival.
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Civilization
Or
Anarchy!
Heard you on IW today, great job on the 4th hour!
[ Short-sighted. Puppets have no brains. Puppetmasters need to be taken down. There is no end to stupid, brain-washed numb-skulls that the commies are willing to sacrifice. Cut the head of the snake. Assuaging your rage is not a war strategy. ]
Think more “Munich” than “Death Wish”
There needs to be lists made and names to be crossed off in the aftermath...
The people behind the funding of Anti-Fa should live the rest of their lives in mortal FEAR after their crap gets exposed.
Suppressed rimfire, from as secure of a location as possible, makes quick work of glass bottles. Aside from the smell, toasted commies don’t bother me.
Names. Background. Bank accounts. Agreements. Legal structures. Partnerships. Anti-American activities—foreign and domestic. Boards. Organizations.
NAMES.
FReepers Education,
I love this Bar!
Yeah, well good luck getting that passed. This is how they have chosen to pursue gun control: "OK, so we can't stop you from owning firearms - but if you ever dare to defend yourself with one..." ==========================================
Point is that issue is a state by state issue. And even in some states a jury pool by jury pool or Prosecutor by Prosecutor problem.
In the state where I live, we have passed some material legislation affecting the basic relationships---making it illegal for an agent, officer, contractor or employee of the federal government to carry a gun in the state while attempting to enforce federal legislation for example.
In the second Obama Term, we had draft legislation setting up the mechanism for a citizen militia.
Other states and local jurisdictions are different. Even the McCloskey's in St. Louis in a pro Commie election environment with a pro-Commie prosecutor are likely to get a jury pool that won't even consider convicting them of anything.
I doubt that charges against Rittenhouse ever get to a court room.
While I totally agree, the reality is that in those Dem ruled areas, with Soros DA’s—Well, those people also need to be prepared to be arrested and charged with murder.
Like Kyle Rittenhouse. And the St. Louis couple who didn’t even use their weapons, and yet were charged—and Mo. is a Castle Doctrine state-so you would not really expect that to be an outcome-yet there it is.
The state of law, order, and justice in the USA is pathetic. And vigilantism does not end well. Read about the fate of the leader of the Bald Knobbers - Dave Walker. The group was formed to protect citizens after the civil war from raiders.
It did not end well. Protect your home and family and look into civil defense for your community. Maybe even explore with the local sheriffs some volunteer duties.
Remember, the Sheriff can form a legal posse. Some Sheriffs and Police, train with veterans who volunteer and are ready to be called to help the local police/sheriff when faced with unrest that they don’t have the staff to deal with. Just a thought for areas with more sensible leaders.
One would think that people living in these areas would have kicked the DemonRATs to the curb ages ago.
I’m not suggesting firing from your front porch standing under your porch light.
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