Posted on 08/18/2020 12:01:21 PM PDT by w1n1
What are the merits of these two major types of rifle actions?
There are many choices when it comes to selecting a long gun for multiple uses. Many of the questions and inquiries are from preppers, and survivalists that are gun users attempting to buy a firearm(s) that can yield effective results for many applications, including home defense, ranch, farm or homestead protection, as well as hunting for food and predator control. That is a pretty tall order for sure.
After much thought, counseling, and work in the gun related industry these past 40 plus years, the basic conclusion I have come to is that the rifle preference really boils down to personal choice. I mean, in terms of overall quality, reliability, functionality, and accuracy, there is not a significant difference between major makes of long guns now, whether a bolt action or a semi-auto.
While the caliber choice may be the first priority, that is no longer a huge issue either because the most popular choices in the .223/5.56 range (up to, say, the ever popular .308/7.62) are readily available in either platforms with numerous brand and feature choices to select.
It would be easy to recommend if all you could afford was one choice, then for sure, I would say the .308 would get the nod. It is fully capable with available factory ammo choices to perform work in protection and certainly for hunting and dispatching vermin regardless of the foot count. Read the rest of bolt or semi-auto rifles.
And most shotguns with either a red dot sight or a low power shotgun scope will stack slugs in three inch circle at 80 or so yards, and are absolutely effective to 100 yards. Plus with field loads the shotgun can probably feed you as well or better than any other firearm choice. And groups of people tend to develop “herd respect” when looking at the business end of a 12. (had to call it herd respect, because herd immunity is talked about so much these days..lol.)
Fire fight = semi auto. If you get in a fire fight with numbers of combatants similar skilled, you lose.
Bolt action for long range shooting is a must. For 300 dollars one can have a most excellent rifle chambered in 7.62.51 or 30:06 my favorite. Pay 200 dollars for a quality scope and you have an easy kill to 500 yards if you practice.
Find the particular load that your rifle likes. Then stick with it.
Odd finding was a 270. My friend loaded the finest shells he could for a friend. The groups was horrible. It was a short barreled rifle. We were confused. I then shot the same shells from my longer barreled rifle. We had 1/2 inch groups at 100 yards.
My point is find out what your rifle likes and do not change bullet weight nor velocity and it will be okay.
Both, in case one gets lost in a tragic boating accident.
Yes they do.
I have used both very extensively. One would be advised to carry a battle rifle (semi) and have a bolt for 1000 yards and over. If you’re not shooting that far, stick with the semi.
Nothing fantasy about being ready for anything. Have you ever been attacked by 6 adult hogs simultaneously? If I had one of your antiquated fudd guns, I would have been a pile of pig crap the following day. High capacity semi auto has saved my life on two occasions.
Keep your bolt and pass the mags, please.
I had the bright idea one time to reload brass cases for my AKs. It went great until I learned that upon ejection, it looks like someone put channel locks to the cases. Live and learn. Never caused a jam on me though, but I do know an old man who had a hell of a case rupture with some Hornady soft tipped load
Yes. Lever and pump, also.
Open bolt, slam fire, if you have the appropriate paperwork and can find one for less than the cost of a luxury sedan.
SORRY, I cannot comment, as I’ve NEVER even seen one of those firearms until now.
yours, satx
Personally, NOT only have I NOT had that problem but also I know of nobody else who has ever had that problem.
The Remington pump-rifles will take a GREAT DEAL of “rough handling” & even outright abuse & will “keep right on keeping on”.
My “PET rifle” is a scoped, circa 1954, Model 760 in .300SAV that happily digests EVERY sort of .300SAV ammo that I have tried in it. - It shoots BETTER than I do at age 73YO.
Yours, TMN78247
Personally, I like the “old-school” Model 760 better than the Model 7600.
Nevertheless, either Remington version of the pump-rifle will serve the owner well & possibly for several GENERATIONS.
(I would be afraid to guess how many HUNDRED full-power rounds that my inherited Model 760 in .30-06 has fired over the last 50+years. - It was originally my Uncle Wayne’s “pride & joy”,)
NOTE: I’m currently seeking a “shooter’s grade”/used Remington pump-rifle in .308WCF to refinish/remodel/repair if necessary & then “cut down” the barrel to just over 16 inches to make into a very handy SADDLE CARBINE, as I have been UNSUCCESSFUL in finding a Remington Model 7600P “police carbine” in 7.52x51NATO.
(The “remodeled” carbine will ride under my leg when I’m astride the gaited saddle “Molly mule” that I’m buying.)
Yours, TMN78247
It was actually an M1917..
What does Paul Harrell say?
He gives you good info, the pros and cons. He clarifies what are his opinions and preferences.
Then he says you be the judge.
“You won’t have time to work the bold.”
Fortune favors the bold.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fortune_favours_the_bold
:D
Yeaah, sure. People are well known for charging snipers... especially a leaderless mob in a city.
See also, Sniper alley in Sarajevo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pbO5iYzk1o
And they make 20 round magazines for those rifles. Remington made a lovely .223 version that took AR magazines.
YOU ARE 100% CORRECT. = I own a Model 7615 & it is GREAT out to >200M.
Yours, TMN89247
Yeah. A quick look around showed people aren’t letting them go, either.
You find Model 7615 carbines at POLICE SUPPLY houses & in very small numbers even then. - I bought my 7615 at GT Distributors in Austin, TX.
Personally, I’m looking for a Model 7600P, which is the same carbine in 7.62x51mm.
Yours, TMN78247
My LGS had one on the counter, years ago. Probably should have grabbed it. A real shame about Remington. They could be cleaning up during the current climate.
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