Posted on 08/17/2020 7:41:40 PM PDT by Seizethecarp
Reports are emerging describing a potential near miss with an unmanned aircraft system (UAS) while the C-32A that President Trump was flying on was making its final approach into Andrews Air Force base on Sunday evening. POTUS was returning from Trump National Golf Club in Bedminster New Jersey when the reported near miss took place.
AFP's Sebastian Smith reported on the incident shortly after disembarking the highly modified 757-200, stating:
"@realDonaldTrump just landed at Andrews on AF1. Shortly before, while descending, we flew right over a small object, remarkably close to the president’s plane. Resembled a drone though I’m no expert."
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I can tell you this, no all drones are not registered. And free-market drones will remain that way in Patriot hands.
I used to live a couple miles off the end of the runway. All manner of weird/cool aircraft flew over my house coming and going. In the days immediately following 9/11, the alert fighters would scramble and climb out over my house.
Yes.
And don’t forget the siege starting Sept. 17th.
Heck they announced their plans, now all of these “incidents” are test runs. Helicopter, drone, shooting near the WH, and whatever else?
Incorrect! 100% false!
Not all UAV are even “required” to be registered” with the FAA.
“The runways were removed at Bolling and buildings now occupy that space, but there is a heliport there.”
Thanks, didn’t know as they are the only close military landing capacity that could have been used. After reading your entry, I found out that the runways for Bolling/ Anacostia became history because they conflicted with airspace for civilian airports.
There are some abandoned airports in Maryland, about 15, but I can’t find any current info on them to find if there is space to create a runway to support AF1 due to housing growth and land ownership/buildings. Outside of that, I don’t know how to make the landings absolutely safe.
The aircraft is heavily designed to take a hit and stay in the air. There was talk in the thread about an engine shutdown. Most of the new aircraft coming out are two engine aircraft. Having four on AF1 is their way to solve an engine shutdown. And the engine used on AF1, the general electric CF6-80C2B1, is specially designed with anti-stall systems in the form of bleed bands to assist the working thrusters during takeoff and landing.
This hot rod is well equipped. Course a sam hit isn’t going to be real good for it. But it can take a whollop and stay in the air. The armament is what causes the great weight on the aircraft and increased runway needs..a minimum of 12K feet.
That’s a little over 2.25 miles of runway and fully loaded the aircraft actually needs 11,800 feet to get airborn. Fuel used, and jettisoned to make weight, helps shorten it for landing.
rwood
I think all the reporters need to fly AF1 and Trump secretly takes another plane.
Thanks. I had another thought... if the 747 was approaching a landing at around 180 mph, would a passenger even be able to see a smallish drone hovering nearby? I don’t think a drone would be able to follow along at that speed.
He was being an a$$, and thought he was being funny.
It’s going to take one huge drone to take out a jetliner.
The Racer X has reached an average top speed of 163.5 mph, with a maximum top speed of 179.3 mph. But I doubt it could catch a 747 with the wing vortex behind the aircraft.
Sebastian Smith, the moron that claimed to have seen the thing, is a French press, Agence France Presse, anti Trump tool for the left. You can’t believe anything he says as it is prone to questionable.
Large aircraft like this do not land like a cessna. They go on instruments a few miles out and come in with their nose high enough they can’t hardly see the runway at all. The procedure is called ILS, instrument landing system, where the pilots and ATC people use radio beams to triangulate the craft and runway. If this guy was strapped in, the odds of him actually seeing and identifying a drone, one the size of a school desk but flatter, are very low. Guess news was short that day. So I guess if you’ve got nothing to write....make it up. Sells papers.
rwood
Thanks for all of that information and analysis, I really appreciate it.
That would depend on whether one or both AF1 turbofans were to ingest a drone and then disintegrate and fall off the wing, possibly causing the airframe to become uncontrollably unstable and flip over.
Drone swarm! That right there is a big problem should one or both AF1 turbofans ingest a drone and then disintegrate and fall off the wing, possibly causing the airframe to become uncontrollably unstable and flip over.
Not if one of the turbofans ingested the drone. The turbofans would be the likely target of the drone, not the cockpit.
Iran, Russia, China, all have drones of various sizes. This would be a weapon to use against AF1 and other airliners to bring them down and no one claim they did it.
No doubt the rat bastards are angry that it did not succeed.
“I would think if you sucked one into the an engine while landing it could get ugly.”
Landing or takeoff! AWACs have been brought down by Canada Geese. They are based on 707 airframes. Remember “Miracle on the Hudson”? It would be just like any bird strike into a turbofan. Potentially fatal up to knocking the turbofan off of the wing.
Not necessary to put an explosive device on the drone as the drone is itself a kinetic weapon (has sufficient mass) against a turbofan (see bird strikes).
See prior reply:
“Not necessary to put an explosive device on the drone as the drone is itself a kinetic weapon (has sufficient mass) against a turbofan (see bird strikes).”
“Loosing and engine on approach isn’t that difficult to deal with.”
Losing power on one of two engines, maybe, but having an engine fall OFF the plane resulting from the turbofan exploding causing the plane to flip or losing BOTH engines off the wings...??? Another story, I suspect.
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