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The NY Times: Mount Rushmore must go
Flopping Aces ^ | 07-04-20 | DrJohn

Posted on 07/04/2020 7:10:45 AM PDT by Starman417

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The NY Times has totally given up on a few things- journalism, objectivity, veracity and history.

They now advocate for the destruction of  Mount Rushmore

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First, a history lesson.

The Lakota tribe only held the land around Mt. Rushmore for a time. They stole it from the Cheyenne.

After this, the Lakotas became fierce buffalo hunters riding on horseback. In around 1720 the Lakota split into sects and scattered in the region but later by about 1760 they relocated in close proximity on the east bank of the Missouri river. However, they couldn’t cross the river for over a decade due to the influence of powerful tribes Mandan, Hidatsa and Arikara. Ending the long wait, in 1780, after the great small-pox epidemic killed three quarters of these powerful tribes, the Lakota crossed the river and settled in the grass prairies of the high plains. By 1775 all the Lakota sects were settled in the high plains and a year later they defeated the Cheyenne people and captured the Black Hills (Paha Sapa) and made it their home.
They weren't exactly a peaceful tribe:
The Lakota are a very strong and fierce tribe with legendary warriors and the battles and treaties that took place between the Lakotas and the United States’ Government have a long and popular history. First recorded incidence was the Lewis and Clark expedition in 1804 where the Lakotas did not allow the explorers to head upstream the Missouri river and the conflict ended without casualties after a standoff. The southern Lakotas, in 1843, attacked a village owned by Pawnee chief Blue Coat in Nebraska and killed many and burned their lodges down.

However, Lakotas and other tribal bands attacked emigrant trains and settlers which attracted a vengeful hit back from the US Army in 1855 under General William Harney, killing more than 100 Lakotas.

The US obtained the land from the Lakotas who killed the Cheyenne for it. The Pawnee also got hammered along the way. It was all so peaceful.
The Lakota slowly migrated south and westward and pushed aside the Omaha tribe in this early migration. At first, they didn’t have horses, but horses were spreading throughout the Plains from Spanish settlements in the Southwest. By 1742 the Tetons had gotten horses and they became more and more like horse-riding nomads. In the Central Plains the Lakota came into conflict with the Pawnee, a village tribe that held the rich hunting lands of the Republican River Valley until the Lakota entered the region. The Pawnee war parties usually made their trips on foot, unlike other tribes. Because the Lakota were mounted on horses, they had an advantage.

The Omaha war parties varied from eight to a hundred warriors. All members of the party were volunteers. The leader was usually a well-known warrior who had demonstrated his skill in battle. The warriors are said to have worn a white covering of soft, dressed skin for their heads. No shirt was worn, but a robe was belted around the waist and tied over the breast. No feathers or ornaments could be worn at this time. In actual battle, the warriors wore only moccasins and breechcloth.

Sometimes the wives of a few of the men accompanied a large war party to help care for their clothing and to do the cooking. A sacred War Pack, kept in the Tent of War, was important in any war activities. The contents of the pack were believed to protect the tribe from harm. A returning war party with the scalp of an enemy held a special scalp or victory dance. Men who won special honors on the warpath were permitted to wear an eagle feather in their scalp locks. Certain warriors might also wear a deer-tail headdress. Only important men wore the large feathered headdress seen in movies and only on social occasions. Only the men wore feathers in their hair, but the women might wear them on their clothing.

The Times cannot bring itself to tell you how brutal these tribes were to each other, but it is the truth.

Trump spoke at the monument last night. The Times' response was predictable

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Yet when obama visited there in 2008 Mt. Rushmore it was well, different

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To: MuttTheHoople

If the “Cancel Culture” crowd had its way, Washington would be replaced by George Floyd, Jefferson with Trayvon Martin, Teddy Roosevelt with Michael Brown, and Abraham Lincoln with Rodney King.


101 posted on 07/04/2020 2:50:00 PM PDT by ek_hornbeck
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To: Starman417

The easiest way for leftists to accomplish this is to have 100,000 liberals flood into South Dakota, and within a few years, it will be a blue state. Sort of what happened to Vermont in the 1970s. Mt. Rushmore will be dynamited shortly after that.


102 posted on 07/04/2020 2:55:07 PM PDT by nwrep
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To: Starman417
The NYT’s must go.
103 posted on 07/04/2020 2:56:12 PM PDT by Vision (Obama corrupted, sought to weaken and fundamentally change America; he didn't plan on being stopped.)
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To: seowulf

Many Indian tribes in North America were starving and in decline until they were introduced to the concept of using (and the availability of) horses from the Spaniards. Only from then were they able to hunt buffalo effectively.


104 posted on 07/04/2020 2:58:29 PM PDT by trublu
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To: cuban leaf

‘A nation of atheists/humanists simply can not win such battles because they don’t believe in anything greater than themselves.’

are you acquainted with such a great number of atheists that you can make such blanket statements about them...?


105 posted on 07/04/2020 3:50:40 PM PDT by IrishBrigade
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To: Starman417

True Americans: The NY Times must go.

Fixed.


106 posted on 07/04/2020 4:05:50 PM PDT by Tunehead54 (Nothing funny here ;-)
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To: Starman417

There’s just enough room to the right (looking on) of Lincoln for Trump’s sculpture.


107 posted on 07/04/2020 4:24:06 PM PDT by PhiloBedo (You gotta roll with the punches, and get with what's real.)
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To: trublu

You have to take whatever you have and build on it.

Asia had more animals that could be domesticated for food and horsepower. That made civiliation possible. Innovation like the wheel helped too.

Of course, it made war and mass destruction possible too. But even large scale war with long enough intervals of peace leads to technological advances and causes greater civilization and urban growth.

The central American Indians had civilization that could never really advance because war was constant.

So, a lot of it is the luck of the draw and survival of the fittest. It’s nobodies fault, its just life.


108 posted on 07/04/2020 5:29:43 PM PDT by seowulf
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To: Mouton

Nuke ‘em from orbit, it’s the only way to make sure!


109 posted on 07/04/2020 5:30:16 PM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism.)
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To: Starman417

“Yet when obama visited there in 2008 Mt. Rushmore it was well, different”


Come on, man! Of course it was different. Obama was a ‘lightworker’ and “god of all things”. Trump is ORANGE MAN BAD!! Certainly you can see that. /s


110 posted on 07/04/2020 5:42:04 PM PDT by hanamizu
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To: Starman417

Then I guess the island of Manhattan should go back to the Indians too. The NY Times is a joke


111 posted on 07/04/2020 5:45:34 PM PDT by jersey117
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To: FroggyTheGremlim

+100000!! LOL!!!


112 posted on 07/04/2020 6:29:37 PM PDT by DarthVader (Not by speeches & majority decisions will the great issues of the day be decided but by Blood & Iron)
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To: KarlInOhio

If you start with the young ones and only breed the docile ones, you’d have cows out of bison in 20-50 years. That would take an actual civilization. One that wasn”t constantly worrying about other less intelligent tribes trying to kill them. Animals don’t domesticate themselves.


113 posted on 07/04/2020 6:32:01 PM PDT by UNGN
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To: UNGN
If you start with the young ones and only breed the docile ones, you’d have cows out of bison in 20-50 years. That would take an actual civilization. One that wasn”t constantly worrying about other less intelligent tribes trying to kill them. Animals don’t domesticate themselves.

Some animals just don't lend themselves to domestication: they never tame even if taken very young, and there aren't any docile ones to selectively breed. People have been trying to domesticate various African antelope and zebras for a long time, with very little success - after many generations, they're just as skittish and ornery as ever.

Even bison have only been semi-domesticated, those that have been in captivity more many generations and selected for docile behavior will still stampede and crash through a fence more often than even the most ornery domestic cattle breeds. I think that the animals that were domesticated were often the ones that were at least somewhat pre-disposed to more docile behavior to begin with.

114 posted on 07/05/2020 9:20:05 AM PDT by ek_hornbeck
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