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Why Biden’s Lead Is Safer Than Clinton’s
Slate ^ | June 26, 2020 | William Saletan

Posted on 06/28/2020 5:26:39 AM PDT by CheshireTheCat

Former Vice President Joe Biden is thumping President Donald Trump in the polls. As of Friday, Biden led Trump by 10 percentage points in the RealClearPolitics national average and by six to nine points in each of four key states: Florida, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin. But many Democrats refuse to trust these numbers. They feel burned by 2016, when Hillary Clinton lost after leading in the polls for months. They’re afraid Trump will come back again.

That could happen. But it probably won’t, and one reason is that Biden isn’t Clinton. You can argue that public antipathy toward Clinton was sexist, based on lies, or propelled by the media. But that antipathy was a fact, and polls consistently documented it. Now polls are showing something else: On identical questions, posed by the same pollsters at the same stage of the campaign, Biden is doing far better than Clinton did. He’s more broadly liked and less broadly disliked than she was.

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TOPICS: Politics
KEYWORDS: biden; bs; flasher; hairsniffer; kiddiediddler; perv; romanfingers; russianhands; sexfiend
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To: LS

Very reassuring, thank you. I can’t believe anyone is really excited about Dementia Joe, the polls were illogical, just like 4 yearscago.


141 posted on 06/28/2020 5:45:43 PM PDT by CottonBall (A Republican's power comes from your prosperity. A Democrat's power comes from your poverty.f)
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To: LS

Bro Lar.

That was the very best post I have read on this forum since Hell Year (2020) began.

Thanks for your wise counsel and succinct analysis... and be aware that I value MORE THAN ANYTHING, in any writer, extreme brevity while communicating the same message.

You’ll note that my editorials are extremely brief, yet they communicate well. I do this, when writing: I pour out a stream of consciousness, then I go back, re-read, pull out the salient points, trash the other 95%, then weave the lines together.


142 posted on 06/28/2020 5:51:39 PM PDT by Lazamataz ("Black Lives Matter" becomes "Terse TV Blackmail"..... #AnagramsNeverLie)
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To: nwrep; LS

He didn’t say he was right every single time; he said that he has been right more than wrong. So you show one example of when he was wrong as if that proves something.?


143 posted on 06/28/2020 5:51:51 PM PDT by CottonBall (A Republican's power comes from your prosperity. A Democrat's power comes from your poverty.f)
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To: Jim Noble

[Wish FR had a “follow” function. ]


Why? Just bookmark a commenter’s musings and read it from time to time:

http://freerepublic.com/tag/by:jimnoble/index?tab=comments;brevity=full;options=no-change


144 posted on 06/28/2020 6:49:30 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: Theodore R.

Trump won white women last time over Hillary even with this GRAB EM BY THE WOO HAA remark.

Shooo fly


145 posted on 06/28/2020 8:09:06 PM PDT by snarkytart
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To: LS

They can’t beat Trump. Only Trump can beat Trump.
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Someone is behind the scenes pushing for him to be less MAGA and more Bushite as you said. That’s what hurt him the first couple of weeks after the riot and that silly “police reform” EO.


146 posted on 06/28/2020 8:12:23 PM PDT by snarkytart
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To: napscoordinator
Clinton holds clear advantage in new battleground polls Washington Post

| Oct. 18, 2016 | Dan Balz and Scott Clement

Posted on 10/18/2016 2:37:07 PM PDT by Innovative

Hillary Clinton holds a decisive advantage over Donald Trump in the competition for votes in the electoral college, leading in enough states to put her comfortably over the 270 majority needed to win the presidential election in November, according to a new SurveyMonkey poll of 15 battleground states conducted with The Washington Post.

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3482071/posts

147 posted on 06/28/2020 8:24:41 PM PDT by snarkytart
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To: LS; AuH2ORepublican; Galactic Overlord-In-Chief

A familiar refrain lately has been “Hillary wasn’t up by this much”.

But I doubt they are so confident or else they wouldn’t have unveiled this latest Russia nonsense.


148 posted on 06/29/2020 12:04:29 AM PDT by Impy (Thug Lives Splatter)
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To: LS
The last goal of the Hoax Polls is to frighten the vulnerable GOP senators into abandoning Trump, at which point they are toast. Note who was “concerned” about Trump’s polls: senators, including even a couple not up for reelection.

Excellent piece LS...

149 posted on 06/29/2020 3:57:26 AM PDT by GOPJ (Blackface Equivalent? When black women wear wigs to make it look like they have 'white's hair'...)
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To: CheshireTheCat

Biden’s poll numbers are high because polls AND pollsters are manipulated by democrats.


150 posted on 06/29/2020 4:01:19 AM PDT by GOPJ (Blackface Equivalent? When black women wear wigs to make it look like they have 'white's hair'...)
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To: Lazamataz

Thanks Laz. I was scheduled to be in AT for the SE Homeschool Convention in late July, but withdrew. It’s very expensive to attend (that hotel ain’t cheap, but it’s the only one convenient) and I can’t fly cross country anymore that isn’t first class. Too old.

I was concerned that the China Virus might still have a dragging effect. So we’ll get together another time.


151 posted on 06/29/2020 6:26:38 AM PDT by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: LS

Dunno, my friend, about skipping that Homeschool event. With Covid-19 keeping schools shut down, this might be the best time ever to sell the line of product you own. Might be well worth an expensive hotel.... :)


152 posted on 06/29/2020 7:21:57 AM PDT by Lazamataz ("Black Lives Matter" becomes "Terse TV Blackmail"..... #AnagramsNeverLie)
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To: LS

Surely Trump campaign’s own polling is accurate, right? What does their polling show? Thank you, Larry.


153 posted on 06/29/2020 8:32:00 AM PDT by 2big2fail
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To: CheshireTheCat
Biden's dirty laundry is sitting in a big pile on the floor, totally ignored by the media.

Once he's officially the nominee, Trump will begin hanging all that on the line - and it is a monstrous collection - plagiarism, Ukraine, China, groping women and young girls, rape accusations, enriching family members, life long record of being wrong, current decrepit mental state, quid pro quo conversations on tape, Hunter's Chinese hedge fund, etc.

And the stupid old fart will phumpfer and stumble around, completely unable to counter the onslaught of verifiable accusations and information.

154 posted on 06/29/2020 8:39:31 AM PDT by dead (Trump puts crazy glue on their grenades and they never know it until after they pull the pin.)
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To: 2big2fail; 1_Rain_Drop; 3D-JOY; Abbeville Conservative; Abby4116; acoulterfan; aft_lizard; ...

I’m going to take this opportunity to reply to my list and answer several threads at once.

First, yesterday President Trump tweeted that his internal polling was very good, especially in battleground states, and indicating he was on course for reelection.

What is significant to me is that he rarely mentions internals, but constantly touts public polls. I think the campaign is fed up with these goofball polls showing Biteme with a lead. I trust his internals.

Second, it is clear that over the last two weeks the template has gone out: “Trump is trailing badly and needs to change message.”

All the people telling Trump to “change message” are precisely the culprits you’d expect to want him to change message because he’s winning. GOP “operatives” (never named, but you know this is Yoda Wilson, Cheri Succubus, Steve (Perpetual Loser) Schmidt, plus the usual neverTrump Bill Kristol, Bootless, and Goldburger. There isn’t a single MAGA person who wants Trump to “change” messaging. If anything, they want him to be even bolder with it. Then there was the predictable Peggy Noonan.

I MAINTAINED THAT THE PURPOSE OF THIS “CHANGE MESSAGE” OFFENSIVE WAS TWO FOLD: 1) Get Trump off what is working, and more importantly, a message the DemoKKKrats cannot counter; and 2) persuade wobbly senators to back off Trump, thus ensuring their defeat.

Lo and behold, I’m proven right immediately. Last night Mike Braun, newly elected, comes out on the Tuckster’s show for BLM. Fortunately, he isn’t up this cycle. The others who are up-—McSally and Gardner-—have never been with Trump on his message, and they were slotted to lose anyway.

Rush picked up on this yesterday too. I do sense that Trump is holding back on a second-term big picture message for now. I think this is wise. With the China Virus Part Deux and the riots, I think big picture messages will get lost in the noise. Expect something around August, or maybe at the 4th of July celebrations next week.

This week there was VERY GOOD polling, besides Trump’s private polling, in WI and MI.

Trafalgar has MI a tie (Biteme with a slight lead, to be expected at this point with shy and even concerned-for-their-safety Trump voters) while another outfit had Trump up 4-5 in WI. These are big, big blows to Biteme. I think Trump underperforms in almost all polls, a point confirmed by several pieces this week. But here is one that should really make you smile: Trump likely to win PA again https://t.co/cwRGhGOAWX?amp=1 This analysis says Trump will likely win PA even though it predicts Weld will take a good chunk of GOP vote. I doubt that. He’ll take some, but I don’t think given the situation in the cities that people this time around will waste a 3rd party vote.

Although Ds are stronger now in the burbs, Rs have cut D registration lead by over 100,000 statewide and crushed it in the rurals and outlier counties that Trump won in 2016. This analysis says Trump should take PA again.

Finally, yet another new Rasmussen survey has him at (as I recall) 28% with blacks. This is one of six ongoing polls that for three and a half years has had Trump between 15% and 25% approval, so he is inching up even further there. I expect he’ll get half that approval number, or roughly 12% actual black vote, but that another 5-8% will stay home, especially in key states. (In 2016, black vote was down 3% in PA, FL, NC and others) This cost Cankles PA and FL almost certainly. (difference there was 110,000 and 70,000 respectively). I expect Trump will double both margins in 2020, or win FL by about 200,000 and PA by about 130,000.

A final thought: they had to bring up “muh Russia” again. This signaled the end of the “change the message” offensive. It failed (as they all do). “Muh Russia” was the weakest yet.


155 posted on 06/30/2020 6:39:37 AM PDT by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: Lazamataz

I’ve already requested the refund. I’m doing pretty darn well from home here. We had our best month ever, and might pass all of 2019’s revenues by the end of July.


156 posted on 06/30/2020 6:41:41 AM PDT by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: LS

Thanks, Larry.

Our turnout should offset their voter fraud. I hope to God it does.


157 posted on 06/30/2020 6:50:46 AM PDT by laplata (The Left/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: LS

What about down ballot support? I think we retain the Senate barely and cut losses in the House but remain the minority.


158 posted on 06/30/2020 6:54:31 AM PDT by Solson (Trump 2020!)
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To: LS

Thank you for your insight LS.


159 posted on 06/30/2020 6:59:19 AM PDT by Rusty0604 (2020 four more years!)
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To: LS

Thank for the update Larry I appreciate it buddy.


160 posted on 06/30/2020 7:10:12 AM PDT by tatown
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